Comments on: Crazy Nellie: The Ellis/Curry Backcourt http://feltbot.com/2009/10/10/crazy-nellie-the-elliscurry-backcourt/ For Golden State Warriors Fans Sun, 05 Feb 2012 08:45:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: feltbot http://feltbot.com/2009/10/10/crazy-nellie-the-elliscurry-backcourt/#comment-68 feltbot Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:56:51 +0000 http://feltbot.com/?p=226#comment-68 I'm already excited by that Monta/Kobe matchup COM. Going to be guest-blogging that game at GSoM. I’m already excited by that Monta/Kobe matchup COM. Going to be guest-blogging that game at GSoM.

]]> By: CURSE OF MULLIN http://feltbot.com/2009/10/10/crazy-nellie-the-elliscurry-backcourt/#comment-67 CURSE OF MULLIN Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:46:15 +0000 http://feltbot.com/?p=226#comment-67 Feltbot, btw I noticed in watching the game last night that Curry has 1 or 2 inches of height over G. Hill. Hill may be listed at 6 ft 3 in but he's shorter. I, too, think Ellis/Curry will be a spectacular combo as Curry develops. Their offensive games are great complements to eachother. Defensively, I was very encouraged by how Ellis played Roy. It will be very interesting to see him defend Kobe this week. Ellis definitely has gotten stronger. I think you are correct that Nellie's longterm plan is for the quick length of AB, AR and BW (your bff) to help on penetration and when big guards try to post-up Ellis. That plan should work as long as Nellie plays a couple of those tall guys at once. Feltbot, btw I noticed in watching the game last night that Curry has 1 or 2 inches of height over G. Hill. Hill may be listed at 6 ft 3 in but he’s shorter. I, too, think Ellis/Curry will be a spectacular combo as Curry develops. Their offensive games are great complements to eachother. Defensively, I was very encouraged by how Ellis played Roy. It will be very interesting to see him defend Kobe this week. Ellis definitely has gotten stronger. I think you are correct that Nellie’s longterm plan is for the quick length of AB, AR and BW (your bff) to help on penetration and when big guards try to post-up Ellis. That plan should work as long as Nellie plays a couple of those tall guys at once.

]]> By: Oregonguy http://feltbot.com/2009/10/10/crazy-nellie-the-elliscurry-backcourt/#comment-66 Oregonguy Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:04:04 +0000 http://feltbot.com/?p=226#comment-66 Animal are we re-writing history a little here? If I remember, Webber quit. Webber demanded a trade. Webber was immature. I'm sure it seems in retrospect that more should have been done to prevent the team's descent into years of irrelevance but who's to say it was Nelson's fault? Isn't it more than coincidental that it all fell apart when Cohan acquired the team? Animal are we re-writing history a little here? If I remember, Webber quit. Webber demanded a trade. Webber was immature. I’m sure it seems in retrospect that more should have been done to prevent the team’s descent into years of irrelevance but who’s to say it was Nelson’s fault? Isn’t it more than coincidental that it all fell apart when Cohan acquired the team?

]]> By: feltbot http://feltbot.com/2009/10/10/crazy-nellie-the-elliscurry-backcourt/#comment-65 feltbot Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:48:34 +0000 http://feltbot.com/?p=226#comment-65 Animal, you bring up some of the failures and dysfunctions I alluded to. Although interestingly enough, Webber has voiced his own regrets regarding his actions at the time. It took him many years to "get it." Regarding Richmond for Owens, this is a trade I hated at the time, and one that apparently broke Lauridsen's 11 yr. old heart. But retrospectively it doesn't appear that bad to me, even though Owens ultimately didn't pan out. Nellie wanted to get bigger, and had to roll the dice in order to do it. He is a master at drafting wing players, and instantly replaced Richmond with Sprewell. Richmond for Sprewell with an Owens topping doesn't sound that bad, does it? For a brief shining moment, the Warriors looked pretty darn good on paper. Do you have a link on Simmons as a fan of Don Nelson? I'd also like to see his defense of D'Antoni's Suns. Animal, you bring up some of the failures and dysfunctions I alluded to. Although interestingly enough, Webber has voiced his own regrets regarding his actions at the time. It took him many years to “get it.” Regarding Richmond for Owens, this is a trade I hated at the time, and one that apparently broke Lauridsen’s 11 yr. old heart. But retrospectively it doesn’t appear that bad to me, even though Owens ultimately didn’t pan out. Nellie wanted to get bigger, and had to roll the dice in order to do it. He is a master at drafting wing players, and instantly replaced Richmond with Sprewell. Richmond for Sprewell with an Owens topping doesn’t sound that bad, does it? For a brief shining moment, the Warriors looked pretty darn good on paper.

Do you have a link on Simmons as a fan of Don Nelson? I’d also like to see his defense of D’Antoni’s Suns.

]]> By: Animal http://feltbot.com/2009/10/10/crazy-nellie-the-elliscurry-backcourt/#comment-64 Animal Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:30:05 +0000 http://feltbot.com/?p=226#comment-64 Right. The unappreciated genius of breaking up a playoff team by feuding with the star rookie Chris Webber and trading him for Tom Gugliotta. The unappreciated genius of trading Mitch Richmond for Billy Owens. Breaking up playoff teams along the way... Maybe he is a genius coach and strategist, but his ego gets in the way (as is the problem with many other smart people who think they are even smarter than they actually are). Also - good point on Bill Simmons - he definitely has championed the small ball (and many times vehemently argued that the Suns would have won the championship if not for that bogus Amare suspension). I don't think Nellie's strategies are stupid but sometimes he himself is. Right.

The unappreciated genius of breaking up a playoff team by feuding with the star rookie Chris Webber and trading him for Tom Gugliotta.

The unappreciated genius of trading Mitch Richmond for Billy Owens.

Breaking up playoff teams along the way…

Maybe he is a genius coach and strategist, but his ego gets in the way (as is the problem with many other smart people who think they are even smarter than they actually are).

Also – good point on Bill Simmons – he definitely has championed the small ball (and many times vehemently argued that the Suns would have won the championship if not for that bogus Amare suspension).

I don’t think Nellie’s strategies are stupid but sometimes he himself is.

]]> By: miles http://feltbot.com/2009/10/10/crazy-nellie-the-elliscurry-backcourt/#comment-63 miles Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:08:27 +0000 http://feltbot.com/?p=226#comment-63 I couldn't agree with you more about the how under appreciated the genius of Don Nelson is. The 'what have you done for me lately' attitude has really set in with the bay area media and fans. Sure we could have won more games last year had Nellie not gone small as often; however, instead of picking up meaningless wins he decided to build for something better. Once our young players understand the offensive and defensive schemes, this team has the potential to be even more exciting than the 'we believe' squad. Keep up the good Dubs coverage! I couldn’t agree with you more about the how under appreciated the genius of Don Nelson is. The ‘what have you done for me lately’ attitude has really set in with the bay area media and fans. Sure we could have won more games last year had Nellie not gone small as often; however, instead of picking up meaningless wins he decided to build for something better. Once our young players understand the offensive and defensive schemes, this team has the potential to be even more exciting than the ‘we believe’ squad.

Keep up the good Dubs coverage!

]]> By: feltbot http://feltbot.com/2009/10/10/crazy-nellie-the-elliscurry-backcourt/#comment-62 feltbot Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:02:01 +0000 http://feltbot.com/?p=226#comment-62 moto, I'm a huge fan of bill simmons, but I don't ever remember him being a fan of Nelson. Lately, he's taken to quoting Kawakami. Can you give me a link, please? I've been known to exaggerate, but I wouldn't call it intentional. More like natural :> Comes from telling stories at the poker table. If you catch me at it, go ahead and let me have it. moto, I’m a huge fan of bill simmons, but I don’t ever remember him being a fan of Nelson. Lately, he’s taken to quoting Kawakami.

Can you give me a link, please?

I’ve been known to exaggerate, but I wouldn’t call it intentional. More like natural :> Comes from telling stories at the poker table. If you catch me at it, go ahead and let me have it.

]]> By: robert bowell http://feltbot.com/2009/10/10/crazy-nellie-the-elliscurry-backcourt/#comment-61 robert bowell Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:32:09 +0000 http://feltbot.com/?p=226#comment-61 its nothing new. dallas played 5;8 jose juan barea with jason terry in the playoffs last year and im sure it was done before that nellie isnt seen as crazy on the court, its the destruction he brings off the court its nothing new. dallas played 5;8 jose juan barea with jason terry in the playoffs last year and im sure it was done before that

nellie isnt seen as crazy on the court, its the destruction he brings off the court

]]> By: moto http://feltbot.com/2009/10/10/crazy-nellie-the-elliscurry-backcourt/#comment-60 moto Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:30:39 +0000 http://feltbot.com/?p=226#comment-60 feltbot, b.simmons at espn is a big fan of the nelson game. when you over-generalize you only provide your numerous kritiks more fuel. perhaps both you and they relish the conflict, and that's your intention. feltbot, b.simmons at espn is a big fan of the nelson game. when you over-generalize you only provide your numerous kritiks more fuel. perhaps both you and they relish the conflict, and that’s your intention.

]]> By: feltbot http://feltbot.com/2009/10/10/crazy-nellie-the-elliscurry-backcourt/#comment-59 feltbot Sun, 11 Oct 2009 07:31:44 +0000 http://feltbot.com/?p=226#comment-59 Hey, one appreciative reader goes a long way! Hey, one appreciative reader goes a long way!

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