Coming Together: Warriors 109 Nuggets 101

Nice win tonight for the Warriors, but we must acknowledge that it wasn’t the Denver Nuggets that they beat.  The Nuggets’ best player, Danilo Gallinari — who happens to be the kind of spread four the Warriors have no answer for — is out for a month.  Their second best player, Wilson Chandler, is stuck in China.  Ty Lawson, with a sprained foot on one side and a sprained ankle on the other, is a mere shadow of himself. (I know this because he’s on my fantasy team.) When your main asset is speed, two bad wheels cannot be overcome.

What else?  Aaron Afflalo, normally a terrific player, has struggled badly with free agency legs.  And Nene has been in and out of the lineup with plantar fasciitis.

Not surprisingly, the Nuggets have been struggling, losing five straight games.  The Warriors caught them at the right time.  Nevertheless, a road win in mile high Denver is still an achievement, no matter who you’re playing. (The Warriors had dropped 15 out of their previous 16 in Denver.) 

It still counts as a win, and it was a very nice win to watch.  After a disastrous detour through The Kwame Brown Era, the Warriors are finally showing signs of coming together in the style they were made for. They are starting to run, starting to play the right lineups, starting to find their chemistry, and starting to assert the absolute dominance of their passing and shooting ability.  They are, in fact, finally starting to play Don Nelson,  errr… Warriors basketball.

Mark Jackson:  Slowly but surely, the Warriors’ pace has been rising.  It helps greatly that Jeremy Tyler has been left on the bench in the second quarter the last two games.  For a team built like the Warriors, the second quarter should be running time.  RunTMC used to frequently blow teams out in the second quarter. Remember? I know, those tapes have been burned.

I also saw the Warriors run after a made basket in this game. Once.

That’s not enough. The Warriors need to take the ball out of the net and pass to half-court on the run.  They need to push the pace every chance they get.  They need to run every single play.

Here’s a math problem for Director of Basketball Operations Kirk Lacob: When you have the best shooting team in the NBA, which the Warriors do, do you want to increase or decrease the total number of possessions in the game?

You want to increase the number of possessions, of course.  You want to leverage your shooting advantage by multiplying it over the greatest number of possessions possible.

Don Nelson, who I’ll wager never owned a computer, knew the answer to this like the back of his hand.  He invented the answer to this.

Here’s a couple of more questions for Kirk:

1) When you have a small team, how do you equalize the free throw disparity?

RUN.  Even with 8 man rosters of D-leaguers and rookies, Nellie never suffered the kind of free-throw disparity the Warriors have under Smart and Jackson.  Get the other team on its heels.  Force them to foul to stop your runouts.

2) When you have a small team, how do you minimize the rebounding disparity?

RUN. This is a point that George Karl, whose team has the fastest pace in the NBA, made to the Warriors broadcasting team before the game.  By running you can beat the rebounders down court, or at least spread them out so that your smalls can outquick them to the boards. (There’s also a point about spread-fours to be made here, but as we know, Joe Lacob doesn’t believe in spread-fours.)

Nellie 101.  Mark Jackson has a long way to go to grasp these concepts. But the Warriors do appear to be heading in this direction, for this season at least, thanks to the end of the Kwame Brown Era.

More Mark Jackson:  If you’re wondering why the Warriors didn’t go back to the wonderful David Lee pick and roll in this game, the reason is the same as why they went away from it in the fourth quarter of the Thunder game.  Nene, like Serge Ibaka, is terrifically mobile and a very good defender of the pick and roll.  The pick and roll is best used against big stiffs, like Joe Lacob favorite Kendrick Perkins.  And the Kwame Brown Era.

I’m down with Jackson’s game plan on this night.  The Warriors’ edge was at guard.

One other improvement from the last game:  At the end of the third Q, with the Warriors facing a final defensive possession, Jackson subbed in Biedrins for David Lee.  Hallelujah.  Such are the small joys of sweating a rookie coach.

Stephen Curry:  Go ahead and trade him, I dare you.  You’ll be the laughingstock of the NBA for a decade and a half.

Did you happen to see Curry close the first Q?  Faking Ty Lawson out of his jock? In his own unique way, Curry is just as unguardable as Monta Ellis one-on-one.  And a much better shooter.

If you’re looking for a jump shot to close the game, I’d put my money on Curry.

Monta Ellis:  After a 48 point game, willingly took a back seat to Curry, because that’s where the edge was.  Ever see Kobe do that?

He didn’t take the game off on defense, though.  An excellent all-around floor game tonight.

Back to my thoughts on the Warriors game-closer dilemma: Do you remember how Allen Iverson used to close ballgames?  The Sixers would get him the ball on the left wing, from where he would slash through the lane, draw contact, and finish the And One.

If you are going to use Monta as your closer, that is the play I would call for him.  That is where his edge is. Not one-on-one top of the key isos that result in long jumpers. Not pick and roll action that results in three point shots. Those shots are where Curry’s edge is.

Just sayin’.

The Nightmare:  One of the best zero point games you’ll ever see.  Udoh is the very definition of a winning basketball player.

One very unspectacular play to check out:  10:50 4Q, Udoh running the high post, hitting Klay Thompson in the hands on his patented pin-down curl.  He can make that pass.

The timing of his blocks is absolutely spectacular.  He has an incredible intuition about when his various opponents are going to jump.

It is highly mysterious to me that he’s never developed a similar intuition about when and where balls are going to come off the rim.  If he could rebound, you could never take him off the court.

Andris Biedrins:  I’ve thought up a new nickname for Andris: Goose Egg.

After putting up a remarkably rounded line in the last game, and getting what I’m sure was a very warm and inspirational message from Pastor Jackson in the interim, Mr. Egg showed up in this game.

Sort of.  It is very sad for me to watch him laboring up and down the court, and playing below the rim.  He’s just not close to the player he used to be, and never will be again. And it shows on his face. All of the joy has been washed out of his game.

Two words: Osteitis Pubis. (Shhhh!)

It was absolutely criminal for Joe Lacob to refuse to amnesty Biedrins before this season.  Did you believe that hogwash the Warriors’ brass tried to sell us about Biedrins coming back in great shape, and ready to relive his days of glory? It was just that, hogwash.  Joe Lacob knows what’s wrong with Biedrins.

So why did Lacob refuse to amnesty Biedrins, when the Warriors desperately needed that cap space to increase their offers to Chandler or Jordan?  It’s because he wasn’t willing to eat Biedrins’ contract. Period.

For all of his big talk about having deep pockets, and wanting to win now, the last two years have made it completely obvious that Joe Lacob is actually not willing to spend money to win now.

Not yet.  Not until he manages to swing a deal for a superstar big man. The Joe Lacob Superstar Big Man.  Or until he swings a deal for a San Francisco Arena, and starts selling corporate boxes and season tickets for double the price.

Whichever comes first.

Klay Thompson:  Speaking of Joe Lacob, how about this game from his rookie of the year candidate?

Games like this make you salivate, and start thinking about Reggie Miller.

In more ways than one, unfortunately.  Thompson still struggles badly on defense, even though in this game he basically had the night off guarding Rudy Fernandez.  He got burned several times failing to get back, and on bad rotations.

And that 1 rebound.  What’s his Lacob quotient again?  Look, Stephen Curry, Monta Ellis and Brandon Rush are all excellent rebounders, despite being several inches smaller than Thompson.  The Warriors desperately need that rebounding from their guards.

You can rave about his offensive game as you much as you like, but you must realize that Klay Thompson is not even close to being a two-way player right now.  And guys like Don Nelson and Greg Popovich have taught me that in the NBA, one-way wing players are a dime a dozen. You lose with them. You win with two-way wing players.

Jordan and Pippen. Ginobili and Bowen. Kobe and Fox/Ariza/Artest. Pierce and Allen. Wade and Lebron. Marion/Kidd/Stevenson.

As good as he looks to be, Klay Thompson is still only the fifth best wing on the Warriors. Because of defense and rebounding.

And he’ll remain the Warriors fifth best wing, right up until the moment Joe Lacob trades Monta Ellis.

55 Responses to Coming Together: Warriors 109 Nuggets 101

  1. A couple of relevant re-posts from the end of the previous thread.

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    Felt, this goes back to my question on who’s doing what and how much, coaching-wise?

    I think this team is being “coached by committee” maybe moreso than any other team, given the inexperience of their head coach. And defensively? There’s little doubt IMO that Malone is calling most of the shots (sets, matchups, rotations, etc) given his resume/experience/expertise relative to Jackson.

    Add in the sight of Malone coaching-up the offense at the end of the OKC game the other night and the thought of MJ being more of a figurehead head coach at this early stage of his coaching career seems more and more likely.

    Everything considered, while calling out Mark Jackson seems to be the daily “blog du jour” it’s probably more accurate to criticize (or praise) the Warriors team……of coaches.

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    Jerry West hasn’t been perfect in his player evaluations over the years but he definitely got Klay Thompson right.

    “So far this season, Klay Thompson has taken 86 jump shots. That makes up 80.4 percent of his total offensive possessions, according to Synergy Sports. For most players, that’s probably too much, but it’s easier to accept from a shooter like Thompson, who knocks down 48.8 percent of his jump shots. He scores 1.233 points per possession on jumpers, which is in the top 3 percent of all NBA players. Even though Thompson spots up on most of his shots, he isn’t just standing around and waiting for his teammates to find him. Thompson is very good at moving without the basketball.

    Thompson really knows how to create passing lanes for his teammates. He slides into position on the perimeter in a way that shortens the distance of his teammates’ passes to him while also giving him enough separation from his defender to get a shot off. As well as he’s shooting, more looks for Thompson would probably mean more points and more wins for the Golden State Warriors.”

    Amen.

    • I agree about the Warriors coaching Steve, but for the most part I’ll just continue to refer to the man in nominal charge. It’s simpler.

  2. Thanks Feltbot! Excellent write-up!
    The shimmy shake is NOT allowed… This is the rule.

    I too noticed the subs – Mark J. is getting better – the “flow” instinct doesn’t fly with me – I like active management, particularly at games’ or quarte’s end fighting for possessions and ESPECIALLY when a player is not a strong defender and/or is in foul trouble!

    Agreed on the best way for Curry/Ellis to finish a game. Ellis to slash to the hoop or Curry at the top of the key to create his own shot or to set a pick for him. Whoever has the better matchup defensively or is the hotter hand offensively should get the call. Curry finished the quarter with a nice jump shot off his dribble. Monta? Finished a quarter with a jump shot clanked off the back iron.

    RE: Klay – offensively – he does remind me of young poor man’s Reggie Miller – especially moving without the ball off screens. Klay – isn’t a dime-a-dozen shooter, Feltbot – he’s a near elite shooter now as a rookie even after a horrible start. Plus, Klay even drove the ball to the hoop several times. Only one drawn foul (no free throws), but he is a rookie and not getting any calls. I haven’t watched much of Klay’s defense yet – however, I still haven’t forgotten Landry Fields TWICE posterizing Klay off the dribble on dunks – and taking Klay off the court…

  3. @Feltbot
    I agree the jury’s still out regarding Klay’s ability to guard the SG spot. He is an inexperienced rookie though learning the game. And you’ve brought up legitimate concerns about Klay playing SF.

    What do you think about Monta’s defense at the SG spot? Nellie always thought Monta was a SG in a PG’s body. Too small to guard SGs.

    WHEN not if the W’s decide to pull the trigger on trading Monta – I want to hear your opinion on why you think this may or may not be a catastrophic event for the W’s. Maybe I’ll look through your threads again. Thanks in advance.

    If Jerry West is saying a Curry/Thompson backcourt would work…

  4. If these last two games are any indication the message from the Mark Jackson-led coaching staff (gotta get more mentally tough as a team) may finally start paying dividends in the form of more wins and a higher level of play on a more consistent basis.

    Losing to OKC after playing so well for 48 minutes was hard to swallow for a young team desperate for wins. And having to hit the road to play in Denver, always a tough place for GSW to win, was a real tough bounce back test despite the Nuggets recent struggles. Needless to say, the Warriors passed their test, with the big question now being whether or not they can sustain the effort they’ve shown these last two games?

    Felt, admit it, somewhere in your house you have a dartboard covered with the Lacob family picture, or at least of Joe and Kirk. Am I right? LOL Good grief, man, give these guys a chance……like maybe 3-5 years? Good trades, not-so-good trades, good and yucky FA signings, likewise with the draft picks. Then, after a large sample size, THEN tell the world how rotten (or otherwise) this new era of GSW basketball has been. And if it’s a big thumbs down I might be standing right next to you throwing rocks at the Lacob residence. But frankly, right now, I like what I’m seeing, especially off the court. In time I think it’ll all translate favorably to the court and the Bay Area will finally have an NBA franchise worthy of respect, and maybe even admiration, from around the league.

    Lacob and crew weren’t wrong about JLin deserving a slot on an NBA roster, they quickly turned a mistake (Amundson) into an asset (Rush), they just as quickly turned the worst bench in the NBA into one more than competent, and Klay Thompson for ROY? Well, suddenly those laughs are dying down, and by seasons-end maybe even a few votes will be coming his way.

    I couldn’t agree more with Grantland’s critique of Thompson (“more looks for Thompson would probably mean more points and more wins for the Golden State Warriors”). I not only would love to see him play a lot more minutes, next to Curry he’d get my vote for the player I’d most want taking any last second game-on-the-line shots after watching him nail that 3-ball at Sac as time expired. Defense-smeefense, this kid’s a player, and he’s only going to get better the more he plays.

    Yep, the Warriors new owners have won me over for now, but, Felt, I will say this. If 5 years from now the Dubs are still in the lottery I’ll meet you at the rock quarry. :)

    • Re Thompson: Klay is a great shooter and getting better. His January FG% was 55%, right there with Curry(55%) and Wright (56%).

      But for January, Brandon Rush shot an insane 69%. And Rush doesn’t get pantsed on defense. And he gets 2x the rebounds and 1/2 the fouls of Thompson. I think the numbers say Rush over Thompson in the closing lineup, for now at least.

      http://espn.go.com/nba/team/stats/_/name/gs/split/42/golden-state-warriors

      • @WhiteHot
        Thompson seems to be the better ballhandler and pure scorer (I cringe when Rush puts the ball on the floor) whereas the Rush the better defender/rebounder.

        • True. Thompson has shown some nice moves, and ballhandling looks like a real weak spot in Rush’s game. If he could improve that he’d be a complete player.

    • “If these last two games are any indication the message from the Mark Jackson-led coaching staff (gotta get more mentally tough as a team) may finally start paying dividends in the form of more wins and a higher level of play on a more consistent basis.”

      Jackson obviously believes in the power of faith. He’s right. It’s a proven fact that self confidence – faith in oneself – is a very important factor in success. But toughness? The Warriors aren’t built to beat people up, they’re built to outrun, outsmart and outshoot opponents.

      If the Warriors as a team believe they’ll win tight games, they’re more likely to. Lots of factors go into creating that belief, and it develops slowly. But as a team the Warriors won’t do better by trying to ram it at their opponents, they’ll do it with Warriors basketball. Doing the kinds of things their team was built to do. As in the last two games, for example.

      • white hat, I said and have been saying “MENTALLY tough”, not physically tough, even though the former can lead to more of the latter.

        Mentally tough is hitting the road after a gut-punching loss and winning. It’s about being as prepared/focused to play vs the Bobcats and Nets as you are for the Bulls, Heat and Thunder. It’s also about your determination in going after rebounds, which if you’re determined enough, can make you a physically tougher player, relatively speaking, as well.

        Mental toughness has always been synonymous with championship teams, IMO, and hopefully both will be a staple of Warriors basketball in the future.

  5. Steve:

    In 5 years, the primes of Monta Ellis and David Lee will have been wasted. Should I wait until then before opening my mouth?

    My problem with Joe Lacob stems from the simple belief that Monta, Curry, Lee and DWright are the core of a playoff team. And the belief that any GM who has been handed such a core, and yet fails to make the playoffs — by failing to put the right pieces around them, and hire the right coach for them — is utterly incompetent.

    JLin was a mistake because he wasn’t what the Warriors needed. They needed a veteran backup point guard, and if it weren’t for Curry’s injury, they STILL would. The real Lou Amundson mistake was letting Anthony Tolliver go, a mistake that has NOT been remedied. Klay Thompson looks like a very good player, but he’s not the player who would have helped the Warriors most.

    Unless trading Monta Ellis is what you believe to be the thing that will help the Warriors most.

    While Joe Lacob looks to the future, I am feeling acutely the irrevocable loss of what I believe could have been two tremendously exciting playoff seasons under Don Nelson, and yes, Chris Cohan.

    And while Joe Lacob openly seeks to remake the Warriors in the walk it up style of recent past champions (Lakers, Celtics), I am pining over the obvious failure to understand the style of the NBA’s current and future champions (Mavs, Heat, OKC, Nuggets).

    Which happens to be the only style this Warriors team is built for. As well as the only style of basketball I truly love.

  6. Regarding Klay Thompson, I challenge those who are presently enamored of him to tell us in what way he is a better player than Kyle Korver. I think that’s the guy in the league he most resembles, don’t you?

    As good as Thompson promises to be offensively, I think that if he is to become a better player than Korver, it will have to occur at the defensive end.

    • Feltiki,

      Thompson’s game is similar to Korver’s right now. But I think Korver already is everything he’s going to be, while Thompson is still learning and growing. He’s showing more stuff every game. Good defense hasn’t arrived yet, but he’s not quite as inept as he was at the beginning of the season. There’s still hope. That’s the difference.

    • A comparison of Reggie Miller and Klay Thompson for the record:

      Miller shot 35.5% on threes in his rookie year. Thompson is shooting 47.7%.

      For his career, Miller (described as a “sharpshooter” by Wikipedia) shot 39.5% on threes, and was never above 42.9% for a full season. We’ll see about Thompson long term.

      For his career, Miller averaged 3 rebounds per game in 34 minutes. Thompson is averaging 1.5 RPG in 16 minutes.

      Miller and Thompson are comparable because both are 6-7. Miller was never considered a very good defender, but he made five all-star teams and some people think he should be in the basketball hall of fame. This is apparently based on his longevity of 18 years, not his pure stats.

      Based on the stats, criticism of Klay Thompson seems to be lacking in factual basis, and is certainly premature.

      • mwlx, Miller played in front of one of the biggest baddest rebound devouring shot blocking (and slowest) defensive front lines in NBA history. Rik Smits, the Davis bros. and Derrick McKey. He never had to rebound, and his shooting percentage was generated under extreme duress in the half court as one of only 2 legitimate offensive options, not the Warriors wide open system.

        Stats lie when taken out of context. And not even Reggie Miller would help this Warriors team. What THIS team needs is something different. Something, in fact, more like Kawhi Leonard or Markieff Morris.

        • And Reggie Miller played SG, which Thompson is slated to play. Feltbot and many others are right – Kawhi Leonard is a player that provides much of what the W’s need (haven’t watched much of Morris, but if a stretch 4 is what you wanted, VladRad only cost 1.3 or so million).

        • Excuse me, Felty, but you compared Klay with Reggie in the first place. A guy with 1,383 career games versus a kid with 23 games – probably a bogus comparison. Then you ding Klay for his defense and rebounding, which was never a Reggie strength.

          I agree with your observations generally, but in this case it appears you’re making Thompson a target because Lacob spouted his stupid “rookie of the year” comment. There are more effective ways to make your points about Lacob.

  7. Felty: Great analysis!

    Biedrins and Udoh’s defense were great last night. If Biedrins can do that on a consistent basis the Warriors and the Warriors continue to outshoot it’s opponents 52% to 42% and hit their three’s are a tough team to beat. Such will always overcome being outshot from the foul line 18-9.

    With Udoh blocking shot after shot in the second quarter, Denver shot only 2-11 from the field. Smartly, Jackson played Udoh most of the fourth quarter when Denver shot only 5-12 from the field. Demonstrating, once again, that Udoh has to be on the court in crunch time.

    Jackson needs to stagger Curry and Ellis leaving the game in order to limit both being off the court at the same time.

    We did just fine on the boards, as Denver only garnered 2 more offensive rebounds,8-2, than the Warriors.

    The Warriors best line-up in the fourth quarter is Curry, Ellis, Thompson, D.Lee, and Udoh.
    The Warriors seem to have found a winning formula. Their offense looks very smooth. They must continue to run. Go Warriors!

  8. Credit where credit is due:

    I’ve been one of the first to thrash Bob Fitzgerald for his unprofessional whining and pompous opinionating during Warriors telecasts. Therefore, I’d like to be one of the first to commend him for his professional work in the past two games, OKC and Denver.

    Perhaps it was the national NBA-TV audience for OKC that made Fitzgerald think twice about his approach, but his work in that contest was of a high order. No whining; no talk-show-host bombast. Just exciting play-by-play description, which is, of course, his primary job. Monta Ellis provided numerous opportunities to pull out all the stops, and he conveyed the excitement beautifully.

    Fitzgerald also had several opportunities to whine about horrible calls (don’t get me started), but showed admirable restraint. He even stopped in mid-sentence once when he realized he was going in the wrong direction.

    In the Denver game, he maintained a level of discipline, with one or two exceptions when he ranted about the Warriors lack of rebounding. But unlike earlier games, he didn’t flog the point ad nauseum, ad infinitum. The camera happened to catch his face at one point, and he was obviously biting his lip to keep from complaining at length about a call. Good discipline there.

    One can only hope that Fitzgerald will be able to control his emotions as the season gets tougher and more frustrating. Perhaps he’s gotten feedback from his boss, or read our posts, or simply did what a professional should do — critique his own performance — but at least this week, he’s improved dramatically.

    I’d be remiss if I didn’t add that Jim Barnett’s analysis in the OKC and Denver games has been absolutely pure. Jim’s one flaw for me is his tendency to ramble on with some of his points, or to make two points when one will do. He was sliding into that trap earlier in the season. But he’s been highly focused this week, keeping his points to a razor-sharp edge. I wonder if the laryngitis he had a few days ago enforced a need to talk less. If so, it’s been a good thing.

    When JB is on his game, he is the best color announcer among the team staffs and competes with the very best national guys, such as Hubie Brown and Doug Collins. He’s a joy to listen to.

    • Fitzgerald – need to move on to greener pastures… Why is he even still around? Most my friends can’t even tolerate listening to Fitzgerald – KNBR (during the day, I have to change to 95.7 FM), he’s ALWAYS going to be that horrible Robert Rowell/Chris Cohan shill to me. Arrogance know it all and argumentative. Threw too many people under the bus.

      Jim Barnett? Hall-of-Famer to me! Total class and expert knowledge of the game. Played for the Warriors. Gentleman. Likeable.

  9. Felty: Thompson’s defense is not bad. As SG’s shoot 42% from the field, and SF’s 44%, when they go against Thompson.

    Thompson has an outstanding effective FG% of 58%. Given such statistic, rarely is his opponent outshooting him from the field.

    • @Felt #6

      Felt, when the Warriors won the NBA title in 1975 they were the fastest/quickest team in the league led by a GREAT player in Rick Barry. Once that team faded away the most exciting BB in Warriors history has been coached by Don Nelson. I’m with you! I love watching high octane, up-tempo hoops, and I’ve always believed you could win championships using that run-and-gun philosophy if your players were good enough. Unfortunately, the Warriors (and Nelli) have never had good enough teams to win it all, playing ANY style or system.

      If Lacob had kept Tolliver and added a few other complimentary pieces the Warriors would have been better, but how much better? Felt, in all likelihood, at best, you’re talking about a Run TMC/We Believe type team, a team exciting and good enough to make the playoffs, maybe upset a team, and then lose before ever sniffing the Finals.

      Yes, for most playoff-starved Warriors fans, making the playoffs would be great, but personally, I really don’t want Lacob turning the Warriors into another Utah Jazz or Portland Blazers, always making the playoffs but never really being serious challengers for the NBA title (obviously never their intension, but those teams also never made that one really bold move via trade or free agency).

      I want the Warriors to be great, not just good. Which is precisely the mindset of the new ownership group, and I say bravo to that! If they fail trying to be great, so be it, at least from my perspective. And if eventually trying to be great turns into the next decade’s version of the Jerry Sloan-led Jazz (playoffs galore but no rings), that’s OK, as well. But at least their sights are aimed really high, and I like the approach. And remember, the Warriors are the 2nd youngest team in the NBA. Another 3-5 years isn’t likely to change things that much (i e if the Warriors trade good young players they’ll likely receive good young players in return).

      The bottom line is still probably 3-5 years from now, when Kobe, Duncan, Nowitzki, etc are out playing golf this time of year, and the perennial playoff teams of past and present are no longer the perennial playoff teams of the future. By then Lacob and Co will have had ample time to bob and weave, and put together their version of the Golden State Warriors. I can hardly wait to read “Feltbot’s Warriors Blog”, circa 2017. :)

      BTW, Lacob had better pass along a memo to MJ if he wants a “walk it up style team”.

      http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/01/23/SPQO1MT570.DTL

  10. Jeremy Lin just dropped 38 points on Lakers. Lin proves Feltbot is a fraud. It was just a PR move when the Warriors picked him up. Feltbot loves to play armchair QB. Fact you do not more than any NBA team.

    • Yes Truth sign him up for your World Championship team. By the way, can you tell us what active pro coach should be coaching the Warriors?

  11. Feltbot by the way Don Nelson had nothing to do with the Warriors getting David Lee as you like to claim.

    • TheTruth is pretty good at dropping bombs, but is apparently unable to contribute any constructive thoughts in how the Warriors should be coached or the players needed to make them play better.

  12. The Mark Jackson in the Chron article (steve@12) seems nothing like the Mark Jackson who leaned on Kwame Brown in fourth quarters to start the season. And the Warriors are obviously a very different team right now from the one Lacob envisioned when he created the Kwame Brown Era.

    But I am very happy to see the Warriors start to push the ball. If Mark Jackson wants to say the slow pace is his players’ fault, and he intended to push the pace from the start, that’s fine with me. I’ll just pretend the Warriors’ first 10 games never happened.

  13. Felt, you said Lin was not an NBA player. It turns out he’s at least pg starter material and perhaps a star. It turns out you were WAY wrong nand that incompetent GM Joe Lacob was much closer to right on Lin (bc saw the potential but gave him up). Just admit your error and move on.

    Now, you’re comparing Thompson to Korver? Thompson is going to be a starting SG in the League. He is a true triple threat and at 6 7″ the player we should be comparing him to to see how close he might come to him is Brandon Roy, not Korver. I don’t see Thompson as a full-time pg but he can certainly slide over and effectively run The team for stretches. Klay has a very good handle and can drive left or right and get to the hoop. He is just starting to do this but if you open your eyes and watch this kid you can see it coming. He can make plays with the ball for his teammates, with excellent court vision and ball IQ. He also is already playing adequate defense and I see it improving every game. How many 6-7 players can do all of these things? Rare gifts. Enjoy watching this kid grow over the next year bc he makes Ellis extremely tradable. Thompson will be better and certainly a better backcourt fit with Curry than Ellis. In fact Thompson and Curry have incredible synergy on the court. Talk about spreading the court with two guys who can knock it down from anywhere AND find the open teammate?

  14. The Lakers looked moribund last night, but give Lin all his due. But, man, the Lakers only had to hold him to 25 points to win. They couldn’t stop Barea in the playoffs last year either, though.

    There have to be other stories here, however. The Knicks have won four straight games, three of them without their “franchise” players. In the case of Anthony’s being sidelined with injury, I’m inclined to think cause and effect.

  15. From AW’s article on Lin last night:

    “We are a team,” D’Antoni said. “His personality has rubbed off on the guys.”

    The same can happen with Curry.

  16. Lin v. Rubio tonight at 5:00. This might be the highest rated TWolves game in history.

  17. “…(Fitzgerald) ALWAYS going to be that horrible Robert Rowell/Chris Cohan shill to me…”

    Interesting the other day he was on oneof his rants defending Lacob & blaming whoever put the team together four years were to blame & I quote calling them “Idiots”.

    Let see that would incude the afore mentioned Cohan & Rowell, but I guess also Mully & the guy most credited here as making ALL the decsions, one Mr Nellie?

    • @scotch
      It’s just what you mentioned – the attack and mudslinging (blame) and constant calling people “idiots” who don’t agree with you – that bug… And I want to listen to the guy – but just can’t anymore. I really don’t mind someone speaking their opinion – even when it’s different than mine.

      Jim Barnett – total, complete package. I can’t say enough about this guy – the BEST!

  18. To the “Korver challenge”…

    Klay handles better, moves better (especially laterally), far superior ball handler, passes & creates for other better & plays at this point better team D.

    I see his Individual D, because of his footwork only getting better & better…doubt the two Landry Fields poterizings will happen again….maybe one a game but not two.

    OK Klay & Korver are both deadly shooters…that’s the same?

  19. Lin:

    It is worth noting what Lin represents. He is gritty, intelligent, committed to team play, in control of himself and his ego, and, for a point guard, plenty big and strong. He leads by example. About how many guards can that be said? He may even turn into an average shooter, no small feat in the NBA, not because of his form but by sheer concentration and will power (look at Ellis’s form). He has to lead a team to show his abilities, the reason he has been overlooked. I’m skeptical he’ll lead a team to the finals, but so what. He can make an average team competitive. We’ll see what he can do with a good one, when Stoudemire returns.

    I’d quickly take him over Robinson now. Thing is, he may never have shown his ability here, even when Curry went down. Again, he has to run the team to be effective. And Jackson may not have opened up the floor for him, and if he ran the second unit, he wouldn’t have had the players to pass to, certainly not inside.

  20. OT: R.I.P. Whitney Houston

    “Ten days after the United States went to war in the Persian Gulf, Whitney Houston performed the greatest rendition of the Star Spangled Banner in sports history.

    On Jan. 27, 1991, Houston took the field at Tampa Stadium prior to Super Bowl XXV to sing the national anthem. The US was at war in Iraq and the game between the New York Giants and Buffalo Bills was serving as a welcome respite from the televised reports of scud bombs and cease fires.

    The pop star had recorded the vocal weeks before in a Los Angeles studio and lip-synched the song at the Super Bowl, but few in the crowd of 73,000 or the 110 million watching at home seemed to notice. Houston’s gospel-infused performance and her soaring vocals, all set to the patriotic backdrop of flags and flyovers, are the standard against which all anthems are compared. It’s as close to perfect as a human voice can get.

    The beauty of Houston’s version is in her restraint. Other vocalists try to make “The Star-Spangled Banner” their own with unnecessary flourishes and self-indulgent arrangements. Whitney let the song stand on its own. She just sang the heck out of it.

    Houston had agreed to sing the song a year earlier, long before most Americans had heard of Kuwait. She arranged the song with her musical director Ricky Minor, who later became well known for his same role on “American Idol.” It went on to become the fastest-selling single in her record label’s history and raised over $500,000 for the American Red Cross.

    “I think it was a time when Americans needed to believe in our country.” Houston said later that year. “I remember standing there and looking at all those people, and it was like I could see in their faces the hopes and prayers and fears of the entire country.”

    The famed singer died Saturday at a Beverly Hills hotel. She was 48.”

  21. Two ways to look at Jeremy Lin’s game against the TWolves:

    For the first time since becoming a starter, he faced a good defensive point guard and was game-planned for by a great coach. With Rubio camped on his right elbow, forcing him left, Lin went 1-12, 4 assists, 4 TOs in the second half.

    On the other hand, he led a team of bench warmers and rookies to a win against a good team on a road back-to-back.

    • To me, the far more interesting question is why the Knicks team as a whole is winning, not Lin. Franchise player theories have by circumstance been put aside. I can’t believe, however, they’ll keep winning by having Lin take so many shots.

      There are all kinds of of qualifications that need to be made about the teams they beat, except maybe Min. Still, five wins are five wins.

      The other thing that should be added is that the Knicks have fresh blood in this draining season.

      But maybe we can trade Curry for Melo now–this was a oft repeated trade mentioned at another venue.

    • even ramon sessions could drop 40 on a team on a random day. this is why feltbot is right and jeremy lin will never make it. he has no touch at all. lin is NOT an NBA player. which means his stats will definitely be ten times worse than ramon session. i can see him average 5 points 3 assists per season because he puts in a lot of effort, which is something you have to praise him for.

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