The Miraculous Season: Warriors 104 Thunder 99

A few short days after I watched the Lakers compete hard against the Miami Heat, took a look at the Warriors schedule, and pronounced that the Warriors still have a tough road  ahead to make the playoffs, I’m ready to take it all back. This Warriors team is going to the playoffs. Guaranteed. 

The Warriors have beaten two of the toughest teams on the schedule. The Lakers have gone into not just a tailspin, but a patented Kobe implosion, fueled by 10-32 and 7-22 shooting performances. Now comes the news that Dwight Howard has reinjured his shoulder.

That might actually be a good thing for the Lakers. Howard may quite possibly never again be the player he was prior to his back surgery — and quite obviously won’t be this season, at any rate. Deprived of his freakish athleticism, he’s just another undersized center with no offensive skills and no brain. But unlike those other centers, still retaining a toxic superstar ego. He was involved in a huge clash of wills with Kobe over his role in the offense, to the point of waving boxscores (Kobe 22 shots, Howard 5) in sportswriters faces.

Pau Gasol hates Kobe too, but not as much as Howard. Pau’s a consummate professional, willing to put aside his ego for the good of the team. And he’s a far better fit with Steve Nash in D’Antoni’s offensive system. So there’s still an outside chance the Lakers will get it together enough to grab the 8th seed.

But not enough to catch the Warriors. That ship done sailed.

Is it a total miracle that the Lakers self-destructed this season? I wouldn’t go that far. But it’s certainly something that none of the pundits (save one) predicted.

And you might call it one of several minor miracles that have combined to create the one giant miracle that is this Warriors season.

The Rise and Fall of the Western Conference Miracle

The Lakers imploded.

The fabulously talented TWolves have been wiped from the map by a biblical plague of injuries.

The Mavericks whiffed in the offseason, then suffered a Dirk Nowitzki knee injury.

The Jazz appear willing to tank this season’s playoff berth in order to dump Al Jefferson or Paul Millsap, making room for the young fellas Favors and Kanter.

The Blazers are attempting to rebuild via a patented Joe Lacob tank job, entering the season with a bench stripped of veterans. Like any team led by David Lee, however, the Blazers’ starters haven’t yet gotten the memo.

The Rockets, by contrast, attempted a rebuild by dumping all of their starters, before stunning the NBA with the trade for James Harden. (I wonder, could Monta Ellis, Ekpe Udoh and a #1 have fetched Harden to the Warriors? Could a starting lineup of Curry, Harden, Thompson, Lee and Ezeli have gotten anything done?)

The Suns dumped Nash, added Michael Beasley, and predictably fell to pieces.

Bottom line, the bottom of the Western Conference playoff picture is weaker than it has been in decades. It’s quite likely that a .500 record, or worse, will earn the 8th seed.

The Scheduling Miracle

I don’t want to take anything away from how the Warriors are playing. They deserve everything they’ve achieved this season. But I have been absolutely astonished at the numbers of breaks they have been afforded by the schedule.

Have you noticed how many of their toughest opponents have shown up at Oracle on the back end of a back to back, to meet a fresh and rested Warriors squad?

Have you noticed how many of their toughest opponents have had key players missing, or worse — playing on one leg — when the Warriors met them? Hawks without Horford, TWolves without Love and Pekovich, Mavs without Nowitzki, Nets without Wallace here, Lopez away, Celtics without Rondo. And in the last two games, Clippers with an utterly crippled Chris Paul, and the Thunder with Russell Westbrook playing through either a re-aggravated or freshly created hip injury that left him more passive and incapable of movement then I’ve ever seen him. I don’t believe he’s ever attempted fewer drives than he did last night. (And with all due respect to Klay Thompson, his defense wasn’t the reason.)

Don’t try to bring up Bogut and Rush, that’s beside the point: I’m trying to point out the break the Warriors have gotten versus their competitors that have faced, or will face, these same teams at full strength.

These little everyday NBA occurrences don’t merit the word miracle. But put them all together, and they seem part and parcel of the magical aura currently surrounding this Warriors team.

The Opponent Three Point Shooting % Miracle

I’ve pointed this out in my last two posts. The Warriors are currently second in the league in Opponent Three Point Shooting %, at 32.7%. You might think this had something to do with their improved defense this season, but it really doesn’t. The Warriors defense is largely designed to induce their opponents into shooting from outside. The three is what the Warriors are giving.

Last night, the Thunder came into the Oracle #1 in the league in three point shooting %, at over 39%. Against the Warriors, they shot 5-16, for 31%. Were any of those threes contested?

It’s been crazy like that.

The Larry Riley Miracle

I’m referring of course to Festus Ezeli and Draymond Green, the two great defensive rookies that Larry Riley discovered and persuaded the Warriors to draft with the 30th and 35th picks. Where would the Warriors be this season without Ezeli and Green?

Larry Riley, disgraced, stripped of his GM title, made to take the fall for Joe Lacob’s tank jobs and ambitions. Larry Riley, desaparecido, completely unmentioned by Joe Lacob in his frequent self-aggrandizing interviews with house organ Tim Kawakami.

Larry Riley pulled Joe Lacob’s fat out the fire in this first season of the Andrew Bogut fiasco.

The Warriors defensive improvement has been remarkable this season. They are currently 12th in the league in what is known as defensive efficiency, or points per possession. Quite an improvement over the previous two seasons of Joe Lacob’s stewardship.

Mark Jackson deserves some credit for that. In particular, I love the fact that he has turned himself into a dynamic defensive tactician, tailoring his defensive gameplans to the strengths and weaknesses of his opponents. Take his recent gameplans, for example, where he had Klay Thompson counter-intuitively guarding Tony Parker, Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook. Absolutely marvelous, baby. (I’ll get into what I think were the reasons for this tactic in a later post.)

But as I’ve stated before — and I think Mark Jackson would agree — 90% of the credit for the Warriors defensive improvement is due to the Warriors’ upgrade in defensive personnel on the front line. Ezeli, Green, and Landry. But in particular, Festus Ezeli. The first living, breathing defensive center the Warriors have had since Andris Biedrins contracted osteitis pubis back in 2009. Take that strategy of having Thompson guard the point guard: it doesn’t work unless your center has the extraordinary athletic and intellectual ability to show on the pick and roll and yet recover in time to defend the rim. To, in effect, double-team the point guard without losing contact with his own man. That extraordinary player is Festus Ezeli.

The improved defense of David Lee this season? I predicted it, back before Lee had played his first game in a Warriors uniform. The main reason Lee is a much better defender this season is simply because, for literally the first time in his career, he has been given strong defensive teammates on the front line to play alongside. For the first time in his career, he is no longer alone on an island on defense. Has his defensive intensity increased? You bet it has, as a result. It only makes sense to exert yourself on defense, when that effort pays you dividends.

The improved defense of Stephen Curry? Well he’s being hidden quite a bit, as he was on the likes of Danny Green, Willie Green and Thabo Sefalosha in the last 3 games. But also, for the first time in his career, he is able to press up on his opponents, and funnel their drives into a trap.

A trap by the name of Festus Ezeli.

The Nellieball Miracle

The biggest miracle of all in this miraculous Warriors season? The beautiful offensive basketball the Warriors are playing.

The Nellieball 2nd and 4th quarters. The uptempo. The aggressive, early threes. The aggressive, completely empowered point guards creating for themselves off of simple high screens. The glorious David Lee pick and roll.

It wasn’t supposed to happen this way.

Do you happen to remember the Warriors’ 3-4 start to the season? The Warriors walking the ball up the court, and making a wing entry to start some complicated motion offense that resulted in nothing? Andrew Bogut and Festus Ezeli and Carl Landry being force-fed postups? Stephen Curry and David Lee and Jarret Jack reduced to the role of bystanders? Off the ball outlets?

The Warriors media sharpening their knives for Mark Jackson?

That was Joe Lacob’s glorious plan coming into this season. For the first time in 20 odd years, the Warriors were going to play BIG. And run post-up offense.

This was the result: Curry and Thompson opening the season with horrid shooting percentages. Jarrett Jack averaging 8 pts, 4.5 assts., also on horrid shooting. David Lee averaging 13 pts.

And this was the result: Losing.

The absolutely gorgeous, newly confident basketball the Warriors are now playing is a direct result of Andrew Bogut pulling the plug, and Mark Jackson awakening almost immediately to the fact that he would have to radically redesign the Warriors’ style of play if he wanted to keep his job.

In other words, the basketball the Warriors are playing right now — Stephen Curry and Jarrett Jack completely unleashed to create and launch at will on the fast break, or off the high screen — Klay Thompson firing quick open court threes as well — David Lee surgically dissecting and destroying teams at crunch-time center, in the pick and roll — this glorious basketball was

PLAN B.

And it’s a miracle we got to see it.

It is a miracle that after two long soul-crushing seasons under Joe Lacob’s amateurish and confused stewardship, Warriors fans have finally gotten the chance to see their two great all-stars playing together in the only system that allows their phenomenal talents to flower. The system that Joe Lacob said can’t win in the playoffs, and called “the sins of the past.”

Nellieball.

To paraphrase Mark Jackson, praise Brahma,Vishnu and Shiva. Glory be to Buddha. Baruch atah Adonai elohaynu, melech ha’olam.

Allahu Akbar.

245 Responses to The Miraculous Season: Warriors 104 Thunder 99

  1. Nice write up – pisser about Curry missing the all start selection. He has beaten Chris Paul 3 times this season….

  2. “The Rockets, by contrast, attempted a rebuild by dumping all of their starters, before stunning the NBA with the trade for James Harden. (I wonder, could Monta Ellis, Ekpe Udoh and a #1 have fetched Harden to the Warriors? Could a starting lineup of Curry, Harden, Thompson, Lee and Ezeli have gotten anything done?)”

    The Thunder had no interest in trading Harden at the trading deadline last season. They were trying to win a championship and Harden at the time was a huge part of their dynamic triumvirate of stars that would hopefully lead them to that prize. Only in the offseason, with the stark reality of their salary cap situation staring them in the face (helped along by the fact that Harden wanted to get paid), did OKC start looking at possible trade partners.

    As for the Warriors trading their #1 pick, given the fact they wouldn’t have had a first round pick had they finished 8th or higher in overall team records, that would have been quite a feat to pull off at the trading deadline.

    “The Larry Riley Miracle

    I’m referring of course to Festus Ezeli and Draymond Green, the two great defensive rookies that Larry Riley discovered and persuaded the Warriors to draft with the 30th and 35th picks. Where would the Warriors be this season without Ezeli and Green?

    Larry Riley, disgraced, stripped of his GM title, made to take the fall for Joe Lacob’s tank jobs and ambitions. Larry Riley, desaparecido, completely unmentioned by Joe Lacob in his frequent self-aggrandizing interviews with house organ Tim Kawakami.

    Larry Riley pulled Joe Lacob’s fat out the fire in this first season of the Andrew Bogut fiasco.”

    The fact Lacob retained the services of Riley while letting go most of the employees of the previous regime speaks volumes of the genius, expertise and personal judgement of Joe Lacob. (How’s that for a little Felt-like blogging? LOL)

    Seriously, Larry Riley knew that Lacob et al had their new GM already picked out (Bob Myers), it was when, not if, Myers would be officially given the reins to the job. Disgraced? To still have a job working in the NBA? If he was so “disgraced” he could have said, “Thanks, but no thanks”, and joined Nellie at his Maui poker games.

    Riley knows his basketball and is precisely why he was offered a continued role in the Warriors organization, which in the end really means another well deserved pat on the back for Lacob if Riley is as good as you (Felt) think.

    “Do you happen to remember the Warriors’ 3-4 start to the season? The Warriors walking the ball up the court, and making a wing entry to start some complicated motion offense that resulted in nothing? Andrew Bogut and Festus Ezeli and Carl Landry being force-fed postups? Stephen Curry and David Lee and Jarret Jack reduced to the role of bystanders? Off the ball outlets?

    The Warriors media sharpening their knives for Mark Jackson?

    That was Joe Lacob’s glorious plan coming into this season. For the first time in 20 odd years, the Warriors were going to play BIG. And run post-up offense.

    This was the result: Curry and Thompson opening the season with horrid shooting percentages. Jarrett Jack averaging 8 pts, 4.5 assts., also on horrid shooting. David Lee averaging 13 pts.

    And this was the result: Losing.”

    The Warriors record after Bogut “pulled the plug” was 3-2 (and 1 of those 2 losses was by 2 pts to Sac, a game they most probably would have won had Bogut been healthy enough to play more than 18 or so minutes). Even 8 games later they were still only 1 game over .500 (7-6).

    The Warriors spent all of the offseason and training camp working on their defense, assuming their offense would be a given as the season unfolded. And that’s exactly what has happened.

    This was a team that screamed “watch us get better and better as the season goes along” when the season began, given their new schemes and (7 new) players. It’s all about coaches and players adjusting to one another over time. And again, that’s exactly what has happened.

    Hopefully, this isn’t your “Andrew Bogut myth”.

    • Steve, I appreciate your contributions to this blog with the links and thought you carved up FB pretty well on the last thread… But it this all you’ve got tonight???

      First – your point that the W’s would not have had a draft pick by the trade deadline and OKC didn’t want to trade Harden until after season… DUH… FB did not say trade during the season. The W’s could have easily tanked to get their #1 pick with Ellis. They benched Lee and Curry as it was… What’s wrong with benching ellis if it saves you the Jefferson and bogut contracts… Obviously, FB was not making a specific trade proposal, but just pointing out that the assets that the W’s sent to the Bucks were not that far off from what Houston sent… Ellis better than Martin and Barnes better than Lamb.. The Toronto pick was lottery protected and the other picks to OKC were late first round(Lakers) and 2nd round. And the W’s also sent Udoh… Food for thought… The big point is that everybody loves the current W’s team – which doesn’t include Bogut… so “what if” they Harden and no Bogut. Also not many people are going to love the next off season when Jack and Landry(player option) get big offers that the W’s can’t match due to the contracts of Bogut(14M) and Jefferson(11M)..

      Second – Riley wasn’t disgraced and still has a job. Ok. But the point is that the hated holdover from the Cohan/Nellie regime made a big impact on the season in the hardest way…. late draft picks…

      Third – Uh – “its about players and coaches adjusting to each other over time”. Isn’t that just what FB said, and the adjustment was back to small ball, running, and early 3’s. Don’t you remember Barnett moaning repeatedly that this team needs to get out and run. This adjustment was the opposite approach that Lacob emphasized when taking over – low post offense.. That is the point, not that it took time for the roster to come together… I would think that Lacob now sees the beauty of the Lee/Curry offense this season and they can build around this core rather than try to build a big, low post offense team…. The transition of the team offense concept away from the Lacob dictate is the miracle of the season – thus the blog title.

      Steve – try to address the main points FB is making when you go after him, not toss up sidebars to obfuscate…

      • I agree with you Buckaroo, The Monta ragging and the Bogut defending. UG. I guess when (if?) Andrew Bogut returns, the Dubs should be playing at 80% winning percentage? Right now they are around 65%. That would make the Dubs a 58-24 record I believe. If that happens, I will take my Andrew Bogut bobblehead out of the round file and return it to the office shelf.

        I guess its part of Feltbots give and take though as part oft the blog. I enjoy the fact that even though FB was roundly criticized for exaggerating the number of games Bogut would miss this season, it looks like he will have underestimated the number.

        Give credit to FB for also predicting the Laker implosion which was counter to popular opinion at the time but now is talked about as common knowledge.

        Finally, If Lacob is so smart, why does he consider Myers a better GM than Riley (ie, not retain Riley)? We already know the answer and it is called “Yes boss, how far and how high?”

        • FB predicting the Laker implosion? Just a week or two, he was predicting playoffs for the Lake-show! LOL!

          I can’t talk – pre-season, I had the Lakers at the 1st or 2nd seed in the West… LOL! But after watching them, it’s obvious – they need to drastically change the roster – or coach – soon.

        • Warren Davis, yeah, Feltbot nailed that Laker story alright. In fact, he hit that bullseye all of only 5 days ago:

          One Leg Blues: Warriors 116 Hornets 112

          “The Playoff Picture: If we assume the Warriors go 2-5 in the next 7 games, which is not unreasonable given their current gimpiness and the toughness of the schedule, they will finish the month of January with a record of 26-20. How would their prospects to make the playoffs look at that point?

          I have to say they wouldn’t look like the complete lock of a couple of weeks ago. For one thing, there is little doubt in my mind that if the Lakers stay healthy, they will not only make the playoffs, but pass the Warriors to take the 6th seed (right where I predicted them in the pre-season). They are slowly starting to figure it out, and play some good basketball.”

          If only Felt wasn’t so good this blog would be so much more fun. LOL

      • First – your point that the W’s would not have had a draft pick by the trade deadline and OKC didn’t want to trade Harden until after season… DUH… FB did not say trade during the season. The W’s could have easily tanked to get their #1 pick with Ellis. They benched Lee and Curry as it was… What’s wrong with benching ellis if it saves you the Jefferson and bogut contracts… Obviously, FB was not making a specific trade proposal, but just pointing out that the assets that the W’s sent to the Bucks were not that far off from what Houston sent… Ellis better than Martin and Barnes better than Lamb.. The Toronto pick was lottery protected and the other picks to OKC were late first round(Lakers) and 2nd round. And the W’s also sent Udoh… Food for thought… The big point is that everybody loves the current W’s team – which doesn’t include Bogut… so “what if” they Harden and no Bogut. Also not many people are going to love the next off season when Jack and Landry(player option) get big offers that the W’s can’t match due to the contracts of Bogut(14M) and Jefferson(11M)..

        Buckaroo, the whole “what if” about that trade idea was flawed from the very beginning. If the Warriors had kept Ellis and Udoh they would have finished with FAR more wins than their actual final tally, a number which put them in a tie for that 7th slot.

        First, to address your revisionist history of last season’s “tank”, Lee and Curry weren’t healthy players being benched for the purpose of losing games. Curry had his issues with his surgically repaired ankle that necessitated even more surgery after the season ended, and Lee’s abdominal injury was such that not only was it determined that he also would need surgery after the season, but if he continued playing with that injury there was the possibility of injuring himself in that area even further which would have made the surgery much more complicated and his subsequent rehab much more detailed and lengthy. Curry and Lee gave everything they had to the 2011-12 season, their bodies simply had no more to give, “tank” or otherwise.

        To then suggest that a healthy Monta would have been fine and dandy with simply being glued to the bench for the final month of the season, for ANY reason whatsoever, is a pretty silly thought in itself. In fact, it’s more than “pretty silly”, but I’ll leave it at that. The Warriors who did play that last month, which included Jefferson, Jenkins, Rush, and Thompson, all played their butts off. Monta and Udoh would have done likewise, with a no-doubter-out-of-the-lottery conclusion to the season as a result.

        So with all that salami/baloney out of the way, and with the Dubs pulling out meaningless late season wins, GSW loses their pick to Utah (by a mile), nor do they have the pick used to draft Ezeli, and when will all this looking back/what if nonsense end? LOL

        Guess what, buckaroo, the team that you say “everyone loves” is in direct correlation to everything that DID happen at last season’s trade deadline. And most fans love this team without Bogut because they figure that WITH Bogut the Warriors will be a bigger threat once the playoffs begin. Not only that, I’ll take a healthy Bogut (still a possibility) over a healthy Harden, on this team, any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

        As for re-signing players for next season, I say worry about that when the time comes. Last season there were those here who said the Warriors wouldn’t be able to put together a respectable bench for the 2012-13 season given their cap issues. Well, guess how that worked out?

        Second – Riley wasn’t disgraced and still has a job. Ok. But the point is that the hated holdover from the Cohan/Nellie regime made a big impact on the season in the hardest way…. late draft picks…

        And my counterpoint was that “the hated holdover” would not be working for the Warriors today if he was indeed “hated”. Lacob kept Riley for the very simple reason that Riley’s basketball expertise made the Warriors a better organization, and a further example of why new ownership is doing such a great job in building this franchise back to where it belongs given it’s unparalleled fan support.

        Third – Uh – “its about players and coaches adjusting to each other over time”. Isn’t that just what FB said, and the adjustment was back to small ball, running, and early 3’s. Don’t you remember Barnett moaning repeatedly that this team needs to get out and run. This adjustment was the opposite approach that Lacob emphasized when taking over – low post offense.. That is the point, not that it took time for the roster to come together… I would think that Lacob now sees the beauty of the Lee/Curry offense this season and they can build around this core rather than try to build a big, low post offense team…. The transition of the team offense concept away from the Lacob dictate is the miracle of the season – thus the blog title.

        “Isn’t that just what FB said”……….No, it’s not what FB said. Felt tried to say that by losing Bogut they were forced to change directions and thus their winning record. I said the Warriors were not losing with Bogut (to be precise, a 3-2 record), and pointed out that their win-loss record stayed about the same for a few weeks after Bogut left. The Warriors eventual acceleration in the win column wasn’t about Bogut leaving, or a switch in style of play, it was all about the time needed for 7 new players and a new and overall very inexperienced (working together) coaching staff to get to know each other and come together as a true team.

        This nonsense about Joe Lacob not wanting a running team since taking over is unreal. Last year the Warriors ran as much as possible, even leading their division in points scored through much of the season until the trade, but their biggest problem then (and when Lacob bought the team) was their inability to rebound, and THAT’S what Lacob wanted to address.

        How in the freak can you get out and run without first securing rebounds? And how in the double-freak can you play better defense if you’re continually giving a team second and third and fourth tries at scoring because of your dearth of defensive rebounding?

        Lacob wanted more size inside knowing that rebounds = LESS scoring chances for the opposition while also leading to MORE scoring chances (and yes, that includes running out after a rebound) for the good guys.

        Lacob wanted more rebounding, not less uptempo. And how has that worked out? Are the Warriors a better rebounding team FINALLY? And are they still running when the opportunity presents itself?

        Festus Ezeli has done a great job as the Warriors center through most of the season’s first half of play. But anyone who thinks Festus is better than Bogut probably fell on their head one too many times as a child. The Warriors won’t be running less when Bogut returns. The excitement from most fans as they think about Bogut coming back relates to the strong likelihood that the Warriors will become a more diverse offense capable of attacking opponents in more ways than currently possible with Ezeli at the 5. And their rebounding proficiency with a reasonably healthy Bogut will certainly remain high, if not further improved. Any hypothesis suggesting that the return of a healthy Bogut will hurt the team is an idea straight out of a Three Stooges movie.

        Steve – try to address the main points FB is making when you go after him, not toss up sidebars to obfuscate…

        Buckaroo, I hope you realize that by addressing my main points that were addressed at Felt’s main points you brought about this re-addressing of my main points towards Felt to try and satisfy your addressing of my initial main points to Felt’s main points?

        Oh, my head is starting to ache. And it’s all your fault…..I think. What was your point again?

    • Bogut has played only four games with the Warriors and their record was 2-2 . In none of the games did Andrew play more than 19 minutes (in the loss to Sacramento). One of the wins against Cleveland he was not a factor as he was injured and in fact the last game he played.

      It was only after AB left the lineup did Mark Jackson and his assistants opt for a smaller lineup and up tempo offense. And boy has it been fun!

      • I’m speculating the OKC Thunder trade Harden to the W’s only if the W’s included Klay Thompson and the #1 (Barnes) and whatever else made the money work + others? Plus, Harden wanted Max dollars – so the Thunder would definitely have to take on bad W’s contracts or get other teams involved. Tough call – as Klay and Barnes have a ton of potential and nice rookie contracts. The W’s didn’t bite – which is fine with me.

      • Warren Davis, your totally inaccurate post fully illustrates why this blog is so much fun as the Feltbot lemmings continually trip all over themselves in trying to worship the genius of their hero. LOL I’m sorry, Felt, I can’t help it.

        So, Bogut wasn’t a factor in the Warriors win over the Cavs? And it was “only after AB left the lineup did Mark Jackson and his assistants opt for a smaller lineup and up tempo offense”? Really? LOL

        Here’s a few paragraphs from the Chronicle’s game story for 11-7-12:

        The Warriors played their most harmonious offensive game of the season. They got double-digit scoring from six players, at least five assists from four players as they recorded helpers on 28 of 42 field goals, and shot 53.8 percent from the floor.

        “It was a thing of beauty, the way we played offensively,” Jackson said. “They did a great job of reading and reacting while being unselfish all night long.”

        Curry, who was coming off a 3-for-15 shooting night at Sacramento and was shooting 32.3 percent from the floor and 34.5 percent from three-point range, started to recapture his stroke. The point guard had 21 points on 8-of-14 shooting and knocked down 2 of 6 three-point attempts.

        By the midway point of the third quarter, center Andrew Bogut had played 17 of his doctor-limited 20 minutes and was done for the night. Jackson had been trying to keep more minutes in reserve for crunch time in the past few outings, but it was difficult to keep Bogut off the floor as he shined early.

        Without scoring a point, Bogut put his imprint all over the first half. He was the anchor that kept the integrity of the defense, making a steal, drawing a charge, blocking a shot and altering a number of others. On offense, he was an initiator, patiently backing down defenders and expertly finding his teammates for easy buckets.

        Led by Bogut, the Warriors’ first quarter was a lovely brand of basketball – the kind with no-superstar, ball-movement fluidity that they had envisioned prior to the season. They had an assist on each of their first seven field goals, including five from Bogut and Lee as the big men drew attention inside and then found open shooters on the perimeter.

        http://www.sfgate.com/warriors/article/Warriors-Lee-puts-hurt-on-Cleveland-4018680.php#ixzz2IzMfMpzT

        Yeah, what a bummer it’ll be once Bogut gets back. And thanks for that info, Warren Davis.

        • I read many posts on this blog where it seems people just read stories, and box scores instead of forming their own opinions by watching the game.

          I attended the Cleveland game at the Oracle and actually saw the entire game. The Warriors were in complete control and would have been even if Andris Biedrins started (okay that might be a little hype!).

          Curry threw an alley oop to Bogut who tried to jump except Andrew was unable, sort of like a normal citizen (no lift). In fact Bogut attributed his lack of lift the following day when he announced his semi retirement from basketball to get healthy again,

          Steve, you cannot have it both ways Steve.
          When you incessantly dig at Monta Ellis when he averages over 22 points a game for several years carries the team in assists/steals and guarded the toughest guard on the other team, and then you anoint Andrew Bogut as a great center of impact because of his stats (17 minutes played, 0-2 shooting, 3 rb, 1 block in the Cleveland game), really?

          You are like a tea partier living in opposite world. You accuse anyone who agrees with FB posts of being a lemming, when in fact you are the one who attacks anyone who disagrees with the way Lacob treats fans (moving out of the east bay) people (Nelson, Riley etc) and runs the team (hires yes men).

          I would say you are the real lemming as you dutifully follow down the path of the paid for broadcaster Fitz, and the other marketing writers. Watch the game, not Rusty!

          I do enjoy your most of your highlight videos though.

          • “You are like a tea partier living in opposite world. You accuse anyone who agrees with FB posts of being a lemming, when in fact you are the one who attacks anyone who disagrees with the way Lacob treats fans (moving out of the east bay) people (Nelson, Riley etc) and runs the team (hires yes men).”

            Warren Davis, if I ever suffer the misfortune of being “attacked” anywhere other than a message board/blog (leaving a store, theater, shopping mall, etc) I sure as hell hope it’s with the same “ferocity” as my “attacks” on all those poor souls here. What is it with all the drama queens around here with their melodramatic choice of words? Sheez.

            As for your three weak examples of Bad Guy Joe Lacob:

            (1) Why don’t you poll those poor Kings fans and ask them if they’d rather have Lacob as their owner instead of the Magoof Brothers? Hmmm, let’s see, driving across the Bay Bridge/taking BART or flying about 2 hours to Seattle?

            Fans of the Warriors live in all parts of the Bay Area and Northern California. The fans who are most “convenienced” now by the team playing in Oakland will turn their situation over to other fans who live elsewhere within the Bay 5 years or so from now. And if that so displeases those involved than move your butt closer to the new arena. As unrealistic as that option might be it still beats the heck out of the team itself moving out of CA altogether.

            With the current “state of the franchise” I’m sure Lacob is bombarded by angry fans each night at The Oracle while he sits courtside, telling him how upset they are with the job management has been doing. It’s funny how when fans get upset they buy more (season) tickets. What, 11 straight sellouts at The Oracle? I suppose that’s the fans wanting to get inside so they can shout at and boo Lacob? LOL

            (2) Lacob pays Don Nelson $6 million dollars to go retire in Maui and pays Larry Riley quite well I’m sure to continue working in the NBA. If only I had such enemies.

            (3) The next time you see Jerry West at a Warriors game be sure and ask him how he enjoys being a “yes man” for Joe Lacob. If only I could catch the video/audio of that exchange. LOL

            Warren Davis, since you enjoy reading what Felt has to say I’d recommend actually doing just that before posting your review for all to read. It really looks bad when you give someone a 5 star review (his supposed Laker call) when just a few days ago he wrote just the opposite of what you praised him for. LOL

            On the same subject (actually reading before you write), I wait with bated breath while you go copy and paste your example(s) of my “incessant digs of Monta Ellis”. How many posts would qualify as “incessant digs”? Five? Seven? Ten? Well, I’ll settle for ANY number you chose, even less than five. Go ahead, show me all those times I “called out” Monta, or is this another case of write-before-you-read?

            BTW, you left out Bogut’s 5 assists in that Cavs game. Even though he was a “non-factor” that’s at least 10 Warriors points he helped the team score that night. Go Festus! LOL

          • Steve, your post proved of all of my points for me, thank-you.
            You don’t let facts get in the way of your thoughts. And you are very busy building straw arguments and then moving the target. LOL

            I am glad Bogut’s five assists made your day even though he failed to score, but did collect one rebound. If that means he had a huge impact on the game, OKAY!

            Steve, I suggest you go out and buy a game ticket, support your Lacob family, and get your own butt down to Oracle for the game on March 9. Don’t let Rusty tell you what happened, or Fitz focus on Monta’s turnovers.

            Wanna put some money on who gets the loudest cheer from your “Golden State lemmings”?

            1) Joe Lacob
            2) Monta Ellis
            3) Andrew Bogut

            Just let me know…Hint: It wont be 1) and 3) and I’ll bet the house. But hey, the lemmings (and there are some) don’t know whats good for them.

  3. David Lee talks about being an All Star (95.7FM The Game)

    http://957thegame.com/episode_download.php?contentType=36&contentId=6211709

  4. Thanks as always Felt!!!
    I give the most credit to coaches Mark Jackson and Mark Malone for the defensive improvements in the team. These coaches have the W’s players believing in their zone defense. And the W’s Front office have brought in new blood who all help to remove the stench from last season’s defensive effort.

    I credit Joe Lacob for transforming the franchise by bringing in the Legend – Jerry West – who brought his knowledge and his connections and positive vibes to the organization. Led to Myers’ hiring. Like when West turned around perennial losers in the Grizzlies – that organization had NEVER even sniffed the playoffs prior to J. West… Same thing here. It’s not a coincidence… The Legend continues.

    Larry Riley? I credit him for bringing us NBA ALL-STAR David Lee, and drafting snubbed Stephen Curry. Which is not inconsequential… Great moves! But he’s not in charge anymore. He’s a marginal player now…

    Myers traded Dorrell Wright for Jarrett Jack… Trade for Rush, draft Klay – had West’s fingerprints. Myers who signed Landry and re-signed Rush – for less. Traded away Ellis for Bogut.

    There’s some truth to FB’s “luck” analysis. It does seem like the W’s have a great schedule. And all teams have injuries. As do the W’s. Playing the Lakers after Brown’s firing (Howard healthy too) and then after Nash’s 1st game back – sure wasn’t lucky. These things have a way of working out by season’s end… 4 of 5 games on the road trip coming, for instance.

    • The point is that Riley represents years of experience and knowledge in the game. His choices have been most influential on the team. Meyers has almost none, and we have no reason to believe he has done much that is intelligent at all.

      Who gets credit for the Bogut trade? I’d be curious to hear what Meyers and his bosses had to say there, behind closed doors.

      • From what I’ve read/video, Meyers/Jerry West get most of the CREDIT and BLAME for the Ellis/Bogut trade as they had the connections to originate and make this deal happen. One of the last transactions prior to Riley’s and Meyers’ job descriptions being changed.

  5. AW reports last year on a proposed move by our visionary owner:

    Golden State management is willing to take Howard as a one-season “rental,” with the hope of selling him on signing a long-term deal before he enters free agency this summer. . . . For the Magic to become intrigued with package, two things would likely have to appeal to them: rebuilding around young point guard Stephen Curry; and the Warriors’ salary-cap space to absorb the three years and $34 million left on Hedo Turkoglu’s contract. The possibility of the pursuit could be complicated by questions about the sturdiness of Curry’s surgically repaired right ankle. The Warriors are willing to part with either of their two guards – Curry or Monta Ellis – but teams clearly will watch how Curry recovers from his recurring ankle sprains.

    Most teams aren’t willing to gut rosters to get Howard only to lose him to free agency in the summer. Yet, the Warriors made a run for Chris Paul as a rental, and are determined to offer more for Howard, a franchise center. . . . They would have to take a huge risk to make a deal for Howard, but sources said they’re determined to try whatever it takes to satisfy the Magic’s needs for a trade

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_dwight_howard_warriors_010512

    Curry’s ankle may have been the sticking point, though there would have been other problems. But we have every reason to believe Lacob would have pulled the trigger. Now imagine a roster with Ellis, whatever players he could have scrounged up to fill in the squad with the little cap space left, and the uncoachable Howard this year, who probably would have pulled out after a mediocre season. Then what?

    As Feltbot points out, the whole league has gone through huge changes, where there are now only a handful of serious contenders. This year there is a tremendous window of opportunity, had it been foreseen and prepared for years ago. Instead, Lacob chased unicorns and giants, leaving a club, in spite of his efforts, with great potential but without much money to improve.

    Seeing, as they say, is believing. This squad, this system is working. But with Lacob, who knows?

    I am looking forward to the myth of Bogut.

  6. “…I wonder, could Monta Ellis, Ekpe Udoh and a #1 have fetched Harden to the Warriors?…”

    Fun to imagine Monta next to Westbrook. Play Durant at the 4 and OKC gets a blindingly fast, unstoppable layup line. Monta’s even a better defender than Harden, too.

  7. The Warriors improvement this year is due to the installation of a new defensive systems. and the addition primarily of Jack and Landry, and rookies who have served as serviceable role players.

    I would expect that such improvement on defense is due to the hiring of new asst. coaches, and were thought of those who coached last year. But that may not be necessarily so.

    The addition of Jack and Barnes more than compensated for the loss of D.Wright’s three point shooting, and added depth in the back court.

    Jack, Landry, and Barnes have improved the offense. Landry by being able to score and defend has helped somewhat offset the loss of Udoh on defense. As have the installation of a new defensive system and the addition of Ezeli and Green providing more depth to the defense.

    Of course, I would have preferred the Warriors to have had Udoh on the roster rather Ezeli and Green. But, for that to have happened there would have been no trade, and no Barnes, as the Warriors would not have been able to tank the season and not been able to draft Barnes.

    And although Udoh is not contributing as much for the Bucks as he did for the Warriors the last two years, the fact remains that Bucks outperformed their opponents by a wide margin last year with Udoh on the court, than with Bogut on the court last year for the Bucks.

    While Feltbot likes the Warriors drafting both Ezeli and Green, until the season ends only then can we make a sounder judgement whether there ware other players the Warriors should have drafted.

    Thompson’s emergence has offset the loss of Ellis.

    The Warriors have also improved by the addition of Ezeli and Green. Ezeli is a back-up player who has had start with Bogut not being available and has not significantly hurt the Warriors, nor has Green. Both are serviceable role players.

    With the addition of Bogut the Warriors will have more depth.

    Barring further injuries, the Warriors should make the playoffs. How far they will go is pure speculation, as we don’t know who they will be facing in each round. What we do know is that have the ability to compete with anyone.

    • It’s early – but the Warriors playoff success (1 round and out or 2nd round) will always be about match-ups.

      I think the W’s matchup well and have the ability to scare or even knock out the Clippers (say #3 seed) and/or OKC (say #1 seed).

      I’d say the W’s don’t matchup well with the San Antonio (say #2 seed) or Memphis (say #4 or #5 seed) or Denver (say #4 or #5 seed), although I’d like to see the W’s play San Antonio this season with a healthy playoff roster.

      If and when Andrew Bogut comes back healthy, he will help the W’s matchup (size) in the playoffs. Andrew Bogut changes the playoff equation. Bogut gives the Warriors a chance and another option to beat the bigger teams in the playoffs.

    • Udoh didn’t really put things together until the latter part of his second year. your loyalty to him is touching, Frank, and you will probably persist in preferring him one year from now, when it will be more clear that both ezeli and green have more to contribute than udoh defensively (none can be counted on to contribute points, yet). udoh had much more experience w. competitive hoops and received coaching at a much younger age than ezeli, but his game is not more polished or multifaceted by a huge margin.

  8. We saw the replay several times, but it bears dwelling on. When Curry made the crucial steal at the end of the OKC game, he saw what was happening—saw Durant was covered, saw that Westbrook was playing back, and saw that Perkins was the likely target. In an instant. It looked like an easy steal, but it happened because of his vision. He’s been making plays like this, steals and rebounds, all along, ever since he played college and started playing for the Warriors. He hasn’t matured, the team has.

    Lacob and West only talk about his shooting. Curry is the team’s genius and center. He sees what is happening at any give moment and knows how to respond, offense and defense—

    —assuming something is going on. We saw him stall with Smart’s “motion” offense, and we saw him sit idle the few minutes Bogut played, waiting for a pass, then getting covered. And we’ve seen him run around on defense to no effect, other than perhaps to foul, when other players were missing rotations or the defensive scheme just wasn’t working.

    And his vision is what he passes on to other players, all quite capable themselves. My favorite play down the stretch was the pass to Lee who passed to Landry for the easy layup. In an instant.

    It’s also the reason I’m not eager to see him play in the All-Star game. He’ll just be watching Kobe and Lebron duke it out.

    Everyone talks about the value of percentages, which I suspect are meaningless, but if Bogut is 85%, he’ll be a step slow and won’t be as effective picking up drivers the guards channel off as Ezeli.

  9. Re All-Star selections and SC, Barkley:

  10. Steve!

    Great stuff as usual. Especially the Riley rebuttal. It’s just plain koo-koo some of the stuff bloggers write.

    Go W’s!

  11. PeteyBrian:

    If Billups returns, advantage Clippers.

    Thunder still tough team to beat with their advantage scoring inside. They amply demonstrated that in their loss to the Warriors.

    Bogut will surely help the Warriors provide a presence inside, but only if he is playing aside D. Lee and Landry. The Warriors will be sacrificing too much offensively if Landry is out of the line-up.

    The Warriors should play a bigger line-up at times against big teams. They can afford to give up three’s as the Warriors are not going to lose games to teams that shoot three’s if we shoot as many threes.

    The Warriors glaring weakness is inside defense. Good teams often shoot above 45% from the field agains the Warriors. Since the Warriors don’t shoot a higher percentage, in the playoffs, each game should go down to the wire.

    While the Warriors small line-up allow teams to go the foul-line much more than the Warriors, it should be noted that the Warriors make a higher % of their foul shots and the Warriors gave up, over the course of the season, one more foul shot per game. No big deal. However, individual games may fluctuate.

    If Bogut healthy and chemistry is developed with his teammates, he should help in the playoffs. But that’s a big “if.” He’s surely better than Ezeli or Biedrins.

    • Agreed – OKC and Clips are better teams – but the W’s can compete with them… Memphis? Spurs? Not so much. Not unless Bogut can come back.

      “He’s surely better than Ezeli or Biedrins.” Huge understatement. A healthy Bogut is in Marc Gasol’s class. Think Tyson Chandler. Hollinger stated he’s a top 5 defensive player in the NBA regardless of position. He’s going to contribute enough offensively and doesn’t need the rock… He looked good in his comeback in his 4 games with us… Out of shape, hobbling,… I like his toughness and heart. Impacts the game defensively…

      Also – I’m really missing Brandon Rush. Near elite perimeter defender – can guard 2s and 3s and career 40 percent shooter from 3 to spread the floor. Curry, Rush, Thompson, Lee, and Bogut. 2 elite, physical defenders, 3 offensive players. And Rush/Bogut can also contribute offensively. Man – I’d really have liked to see that lineup play together in the playoffs…

      Losing Rush and Bogut – I’d never guess 26-15…

  12. Warren Davis | January 25, 2013 at 4:16 pm |

    Steve, your post proved of all of my points for me, thank-you.
    You don’t let facts get in the way of your thoughts. And you are very busy building straw arguments and then moving the target. LOL

    I am glad Bogut’s five assists made your day even though he failed to score, but did collect one rebound. If that means he had a huge impact on the game, OKAY!

    Thanks, I’ll try and keep that thing about the “facts” in mind. BTW, Bogut had 3 rebounds, not 1. LOL

    Steve, I suggest you go out and buy a game ticket, support your Lacob family, and get your own butt down to Oracle for the game on March 9. Don’t let Rusty tell you what happened, or Fitz focus on Monta’s turnovers.

    Wanna put some money on who gets the loudest cheer from your “Golden State lemmings”?

    1) Joe Lacob
    2) Monta Ellis
    3) Andrew Bogut

    Just let me know…Hint: It wont be 1) and 3) and I’ll bet the house. But hey, the lemmings (and there are some) don’t know whats good for them.

    Since I’d be giving Monta a big hand myself I sure wouldn’t bet the other two options. Like most all Warriors fans I always enjoyed watching Monta play. He always played hard and his lightning-like quickness still makes him one of the toughest players to guard in the NBA and one of the most exciting to watch. I’m sure he’ll play like crazy tomorrow night and again in March out here. If all this sounds like I was a fan of Monta it’s because I was and in some respects still am. Incessant digs? I’m still waiting, buddy. You and your “facts”. LOL

  13. Grizzlies just traded Speights for a legit spread 4, Jon Leuer. Great move for them, exactly what they needed. Now if they can trade Gay for say Dudley and Scola, they’ll have a very interesting team.

    http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2013/jan/25/new-grizzly-jon-leuer-says-its-definitely-privileg/?partner=yahoo_feeds

  14. I have no idea who Jimmy Butler is, but boy did he dominate the player Joe Lacob tanked last season for.

    • Butler’s scouting report at draft time was quite similar to Green’s — average in physical attributes but exceptional in hoops functionality, defense, smarts. height ,weight, reach for butler and green are similar as well, though Butler played as a wing at Marquette. if nothing else, drafting barnes was a sign that p.r./marketing and lacob’s input were greater, compared to the two drafts in which Riley had the principal say. another front office decision was highlighted in robinson’s contributions — hinrich +robinson in roses’ absence > jack + jenkins when curry was out. the woeyrs could use a reserve guard like robinson against stifling quasi-zones that thibodeau and his many imitators favor.

      fans here seem to have made their peace w. the preacher as the head coach, but the Chi game was a good reminder that many of the playoff tested coaches like thibodeau are literally in a different league. in that respect, should the lacobites make the post season, the preacher would be fortunate to face the sterlings w. del negro, rather than hollins, karl, popovich. if carlisle finds a way to squeeze into a playoff seed, his team most likely would not be a first round opponent.

    • Butler played 44 minutes – actually played Curry and Jack and Thompson and Jefferson a lot. Barnes only played 22 minutes and matched up with Hamilton a lot.

      Butler has a high motor.

      Barnes – passive. The “Pidgeon” this game. No Falcon sightings.

      Green – 0 rebounds… 11 minutes…

      Killed on the boards… When’s Bogut coming back?

      • @Moto
        Lots of fans eating big time crow regarding firing Mark Jackson and replacing him with Malone… I thought last season was a raw deal for 1st year coach and he be given another year to prove himself. Now he’s a coach of the year candidate, winning, rebounding/defense, and playing starting 3 rooks.

        I liked Adelman or D’Antoni – but liked MJs 17 year playing career as a wild card coach. Jason Kidd? Wonder if he’d want to coach!

  15. Chris Kaman on Stern and the Spurs:

    “One exception to that is the Spurs. They understand what they have. That’s why David Stern hates the Spurs. I probably shouldn’t say that but he doesn’t like when the Spurs are in the finals because the ratings go down. People say that all the time. I don’t know how true it is but you hear stories all about that is that the ratings are down. Their basketball is the purest basketball you’re going to find, in my opinion, in the NBA, just watching them play. They play a nice pace game. They’re defense is solid. Their plays are solid. They get all their guys involved. That’s why when he sat them guys against the Heat and sent them home, they still almost won that game.”

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-mavericks/headlines/20130124-mavericks-chris-kaman-why-david-stern-hates-the-spurs.ece

    • Great run. Got to enjoy that team while it lasts as we know it. Duncan and Manu are playing great still – but they’re getting older.

      And Pops will have to get used to playing without Duncan and Manu… And they’ll almost win a lot of games. Lol!

  16. The Warriors outscored the Bulls after the first quarter but Kirk Hinrich going off summed up the night pretty well. After beating LAC and OKC back-to-back I think GSW started feeling too good about themselves. Same thing happened after their route of LAC a few weeks ago. Reality checks are good from time to time. Monta is next.

    ———————————————–

    Notebook: Bulls 103, 87 Warriors

    Kent McDill, for NBA.com
    Posted Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:40 PM – Updated Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:43 PM

    THE FACTS: Led by a season-high 25 points from Kirk Hinrich, the host Chicago Bulls led from the start and ran away with a 103-87 victory over the Golden State Warriors on Friday. Nate Robinson, the current backup point guard behind Hinrich, had 22 points off the bench, while all three Bulls starters in the frontcourt had double-doubles: Jimmy Butler (16 points, 12 rebounds), Carlos Boozer (15 points, 13 rebounds) and Joakim Noah (14 points, 16 rebounds). The Warriors were led by new All-Star David Lee with 23 points, while Stephen Curry had 21 points.

    THE FACTS II: The game was decided in the first quarter, when the Bulls shot 54 percent, the Warriors shot 23 percent, the Bulls outrebounded the Warriors 21-7 and took a 31-13 lead. The Warriors never got the difference below double digits the rest of the game.

    QUOTABLE I: “Joakim’s energy runs off on the other guys on the court. When you see him rebounding and yelling, you go in and rebound so you can yell.”
    — Bulls forward Jimmy Butler.

    THE STAT: The Bulls shot 45 percent from 3-point range (nine for 20), with Hinrich going six for seven.

    QUOTABLE II: “That’s the most I’ve taken this season. That’s the most I’ve made.”
    — Bulls guard Kirk Hinrich on his 3-point shooting. His six made 3-pointers tied his career high.

    THE STAT II: The Bulls outrebounded the Warriors 56-37. They had 16 offensive boards and had 30 second-chance points.

    THE STAT III: The Warriors lost by 16, but they outscored the Bulls from the free throw line 29-12. They were 29-for-33 from the line (the Bulls were 12 for 18).

    TURNING POINT: The Warriors got the difference down to 10 points, 65-55, with nine minutes left in the third quarter, but missed their next six shots, and the Bulls built a 75-58 lead.

    INJURY UPDATE: Luol Deng missed his fourth consecutive game with a sore right hamstring, but reports indicate he may play Saturday in Washington against the Wizards. The Bulls are 3-1 in his absence with Butler starting in Deng’s place.

    HOT: Bulls guard Robinson made 10-of-16 shots from the field for his 22 points.

    QUOTABLE III: “We got outworked. We didn’t have the right mindset to start the game and it snowballed from there. That wasn’t Warriors basketball.”

    — Golden State coach Mark Jackson.

    GOOD MOVE: Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau took the harness off the Bulls’ offense Friday. They scored a season-high 63 points in the first half.

    ODD OFFICIATING: The second half started with four offensive fouls called in the first 57 seconds. Three minutes later, the officiating crew of Bill Kennedy, John Goble and Olandis Poole called traveling on three consecutive possessions over 33 seconds.

    INSIDE THE ARENA: The United Center gets regular visits from former Second City performers who went on to star on Saturday Night Live. On Friday, it was Tim Meadows’ turn to show up.

    ROOKIE WATCH: The Warriors’ starting rookie forward Harrison Barnes missed all four shots he took and finished with three points in 22 minutes. Rookie center Festus Ezeli played just nine minutes because of foul trouble and did not score.

    ———————————————

    Postgame audio

    https://soundcloud.com/warriors/sets/warriors-at-bulls-postgame

    • “After beating LAC and OKC back-to-back I think GSW started feeling too good about themselves. ”

      I think last night’s game was a coaching win, not a player thing. On D, the Bulls were their usual brutally efficient and hard-working selves, but on offense Thibodeau had his team ready to jump on the Warriors’ defensive limitations from the opening tip.

      After the first quarter, the dubs made adjustments that allowed them to play basically even. But the Bulls’ opening onslaught was designed specifically to take advantage of the opportunities this Warriors team usually provides to opponents.

      I don’t think the Ws players can learn much from the Bulls game, but their coaches could. Whatever the team says to the public, I hope they understand among themselves where the responsibility for that loss lies.

      • “But on offense Thibodeau had his team ready to jump on the Warriors’ defensive limitations from the opening tip.”

        WH, I wonder if Coach’s pregame speech went something like, “Hey, Hinrich and Robinson, I want you two to shoot better than 65% from the field combined (18-27) and score close to half our points for the game (25&22=47)! Got it? OK, Go Bulls 0n 3, 1-2-3, GO BULLS!”?

        The combination of Hinrich having easily his best offensive game of the season (PPG avg in the single digits), Robinson having one of those white-hot nights he’s want to do on occasion, and the Warriors being as cold as the weather back east in the first 12 minutes, was all too much to overcome. When a player like Hinrich shoots like he did from 3-point land and score WAY over his usual per game production, it has very little if anything at all to do with coaching schemes. When you’re hot you’re hot.

        And yes, the Warriors came into this game mentally similar to their game vs LAC in LA after they had wiped out the Clippers in Oakland, with the opening 12 minutes of both games almost identical, one team frothing at the mouth (LAC/Bulls) and the other simply playing another game on the schedule.

        I was convinced of this as fact just using the “eye test” for evidence, but after listening to what Joakim Noah said postgame all doubts were removed. Noah said, “we were the hungrier team, and when you’re the hungrier team you usually win”. https://soundcloud.com/warriors/joakim-noah-postgame-warriors

        Noah could tell GSW wasn’t as intense and focused as they were, which seemed obvious watching on TV, just like it seemed obvious watching the Warriors get their asses kicked in LA by the Clippers that night a few weeks ago.

        Frankly, for a young team like the Warriors, I think these kinds of butt-whippings are good every once in awhile. Tends to quickly bring you back down off that “Hey, we’re pretty hot stuff” cloud in a hurry and keeps that proverbial piece of humble pie a vital part of your everyday dessert.

        They’re going to run into the same situation again tonight with Monta wanting to put on a show for GSW and all his loyal fans back here by the Bay. If the Dubs don’t turn it up a few notches themselves they’ll be in for another long night, only this time in Milwaukee.

  17. Halfway mark of the regular season

  18. Bulls = bummer. I wanted this win to show the team had arrived.

    Actually, the previous three seasons the Warriors are 3-2 over the Bulls, one of those losses in overtime, this with the same sized teams or smaller and presumably lesser squads, against healthy Bulls teams with Deng and Rose (Robinson and Hinrich, admittedly, were more efficient than Rose last night). But the Warriors had more scorers in those games, and drivers, notably Ellis and Maggette, which the team doesn’t have now.

    For example:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=AjKnzr.2SME2sclKaXvoyO.kvLYF?gid=2010011809

    Somebody else has to score on this team at spots 1 through 3, starters and subs, and the points aren’t coming from Barnes. The two guard set has worked against the Bulls. Starting Jack and Curry against such teams, with Klay at 3, maybe getting more movement and openings in the offense? But they still don’t have a driver.

    • And I doubt a healthy Bogut would have made much difference last night. He would have been smothered in the paint. He didn’t do much against the Bulls the season he was healthy in the Bucks’s 4 losses:

      http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3927/gamelog;_ylt=AtjUH17iTyUTGPmdMUE.5i0YPaB4?year=2010

      • UGLY, UGLY, UGLY Chicago game!

        The W’s defeating the Clippers AND the Thunder got the Bulls attention. The Bulls dominated the glass – there was 20 extra rebounds or so difference… That can’t be overcome… And the Bulls were shooting well offensively and played tough, physical defense – helping the W’s shoot horribly… Add a healthy Derrick Rose to that team later this season, and they’ll be competing with Miami for a spot in the NBA Finals…

    • A spread 4 would have helped as well, and of course we don’t have one. It’s not a role Landry can fulfill.

  19. MTII tweets that prevailing thought is that Bogut about a month away.

  20. Bucks preview:

    One of the commentators on ESPN or NBA said that the percentages are low for Ellis and Jennings (Curry’s overall % is down, too) because they’re not getting help from the rest of the offense and are forced to heave it up, often and late. I’m curious to see if this is true tonight.

    • defense is up around the league and chucking has gone down. [refer to an Abbott article on the truehoop blog, 18 Jan., "where have all the gunners gone?"]. but nice to hear that ellis’ apologists can still produce rationalizations on his behalf. were they paying attention during the season under Smart (when curry was healthy enough to play in 75/82 games) ? ellis attempted 6 more shots per game than the next most frequent shooter on the team. lacking help from the rest of the offense ? three regulars getting 20 min./gm. or more scored more efficiently and shot more accurately than him — lee, williams, curry.

      when ellis and curry were paired, both were lumped together as weak defenders despite the obvious differences in their level of effort and willingness to play team defense. curry has made more key defensive plays this season than ellis has in his career. we’ll see how jennings and ellis fare when they end up on different teams.

  21. Notebook: Bucks 109, Warriors 102

    Rick Braun, for NBA.com
    Posted Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:17 AM – Updated Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:17 AM

    THE FACTS: Monta Ellis scored seven of his 20 points in the final 32.7 seconds, and Brandon Jennings scored 18 of his 20 in a big third quarter as the Milwaukee Bucks held off the Golden State Warriors 109-102 Saturday night at the BMO Harris Bradley Center.

    Ellis drilled a huge 3-pointer with 32.7 seconds left to give the Bucks a 103-98 lead, then added four free throws as Milwaukee (23-19) improved to four games over .500 for the fourth time this season.

    Ersan Ilyasova added 18 points and 12 rebounds and Larry Sanders had 16 points, 11 rebounds and three blocked shots as the Bucks improved to 7-3 under new coach Jim Boylan.

    Stephen Curry had 26 points and Klay Thompson added 19 for the Warriors (26-17), who lost for the second time in two nights to open up a four-game road trip.

    QUOTABLE: “What can you say? We struggled all night making shots, and that was just huge. He was going to his left, hand in the face … it’s a great shot. It won the game for us.”

    — Bucks forward Mike Dunleavy on Ellis’ 3-pointer

    THE STAT: Most categories were pretty even, with the exception of the Bucks’ 22 offensive rebounds to Golden State’s 12. That led to a 27-13 edge for the Bucks in second-chance points.

    TURNING POINT: Jarrett Jack’s third 3-pointer of the fourth quarter pulled the Warriors within 100-98 with 52.9 seconds left, and the Bucks were in jeopardy of blowing a lead for the second straight night. After a timeout, the Bucks ran the clock down before Ellis was left with the ball as the shot clock ran down. He created just enough space to launch a 3-pointer from the left wing and the ball hit the promised land with 32.7 seconds left, his first 3-pointer of the night in five attempts. The Warriors never got closer than five the rest of the way.

    QUOTABLE II: “Brandon likes to play, so I knew that he was going to come out and do something. Obviously, he’s 0-for-1 in the first half, but he got himself going. He’s a competitor. He was trying to move the ball a little bit in the first half, but we need him to score so he came out in the second half and did what we needed him to do for our team.”

    — Bucks coach Jim Boylan on Jennings’ 18-point third quarter after a scoreless first half

    HOT: On a night where just about every other key player struggled from the field for both teams, Sanders made 7 of 9 shots, including a big jumper early in the fourth quarter after the Bucks started the period 0-for-6.

    NOT: Although they combined for 50 points, the Bucks’ three-guard combination of Jennings, Ellis and Beno Udrih shot just 36.2 percent (17-for-47) from the field.

    FANTASY SPOTLIGHT: Ilyasova struggled to a 3-for-12 first half after scoring 27, 27 and 30 in his previous three games. But he was 4-for-5 in the second half and finished with a solid 18 points and 12 rebounds. In his last four games he’s averaging 25.5 points and 12.3 rebounds.

    INSIDE THE ARENA: Milwaukee Brewers star Ryan Braun, in town for his team’s winter fan festival, was in the seats, as were teammates John Axford, Rickie Weeks and Jonathon Lucroy.

    GOOD MOVE: The Warriors scored the first eight points of the fourth quarter to pull within 86-82 when Boylan decided he could wait no longer. He sent Sanders and Ilyasova back in with 9:23 left, and a Sanders jumper ended an 0-for-6 shooting skid. Ilyasova then drilled a 3-pointer and a jumper to push the Bucks’ lead to 94-82.

    NOTABLE: Boylan received his second technical foul since taking over for Scott Skiles. He was hit up by referee Tony Brothers after Sanders did not get a call going to the basket. Sanders, who was ejected a week ago, went to Boylan first, and Boylan then went to Brothers with his complaint and was called for the technical during a timeout. Sanders has been ejected twice this season and Boylan noted he had to help the third-year center out in controlling his emotions. “I just told him a good place to get a burger here in Milwaukee, and he disagreed,” Boylan said of his conversation with Brothers. “I said, ‘No, it’s the best,’ and he said, ‘No, it’s not.’ I said, ‘Yes it is,’ and he said, ‘OK, that’s a technical on you.’ We’ll argue about it again later. I’ll see him down the road.” … Former Buck Andrew Bogut made his first appearance at the Bradley Center since being traded to the Warriors last February. Bogut is not playing but is traveling with the Warriors as he works to come back from ankle surgery. He’s only played four games this season. … With his three blocks, Sanders now has at least one block in 29 straight games, tied for the longest active streak in the league with San Antonio’s Tim Duncan. … David Lee’s 12 points and 15 rebounds gave him his 27th double-double this season, tied for most in the league with Memphis’ Zach Randolph. Milwaukee native Carl Landry also had a double-double with 13 points and 14 rebounds.

    UP NEXT: For the Warriors, Monday @ Toronto, Tuesday @ Cleveland, Thursday vs. Dallas. For the Bucks, Tuesday @ Detroit, Wednesday vs. Chicago, Friday @ New York

    Postgame audio

    https://soundcloud.com/warriors/sets/warriors-at-bucks-postgame

    • Warriors TV recap

      • Postgame quotes:

        Stephen Curry

        On the Warriors rebounding struggles lately:

        “We have played two teams that have a good front line. We just have to step our game up a little more. We really have to make a concerted effort to find bodies. We don’t have many guys that can just jump up over guys and grab rebounds. Five guys putting bodies on guys and going after loose balls.”

        On the key to outside success:

        “We have good shooters on this team, and we space the floor well. It’s just trying to find open shots and knocking them down. We have to continue to realize a balance between settling for jump shots when we know we have it going and getting to the paint and still making plays. I think offensively we didn’t have a problem tonight, but defensively in the third quarter especially we gave up 35 points. You are not going to win on the road doing that.”

        Jarrett Jack

        On the performance tonight:

        “We just didn’t think we had the effort tonight for 48 minutes to come in here and get a win on the road. Regardless, if we don’t put forth that effort for 48 minutes, we aren’t going to beat anybody. I just tried to have a concerted effort, coming in trying to give my team energy. We kind of had a little down period in the third quarter and they made tough shots to go with it. We just have to pick up our effort and level of play.”

        On differences in play going forward:

        “Everything across the board, there is no one thing to pinpoint. I think if you tend to pick it up everywhere there won’t be a place where you are lacking. One thing that has been plaguing us the past few games has been turnovers, but we took care of the ball for the most part tonight. We will get back on track, no need to panic.”

  22. Matt Steinmetz:

    Warriors not reeling but 4-7 in past 11 games. Still in terrific shape playoff-wise halfway through season but worst thing about loss against Milwaukee on Saturday might not have been the loss at Milwaukee. Might have been that Houston, Denver, Utah and Portland all won, tightening things up a little more in the Western Conference standings.

    The Warriors (26-17) who had been holding steady in the fifth spot in the Western Conference are now in a virtual tie for fifth with the Nuggets. The Warriors have nine more games before the All-Star break, and one piece of good news for them — and likely injured center Andrew Bogut — is that they’ll get a six-day break.

    • Brim and Firestone

      Last night was a nice little reminder of how clutch Monta is. The Warriors thought they had a chance at the end until he shot 3 daggers in a row.

      Also noticed that after Monta put the game out of reach the Bucks made sure he got all the rest of the inbounds passes to collect fouls from the Ws.

      Forget all the snarky press about Monta. The Bucks believe in him, just as his Warriors did.

      • Agree with you Brim and Firestone. Steve is convinced the trade for Andrew Bogut was great, and incessantly criticizes Monta Ellis even if he wins the game.

        On the NBA Pass last night, the Milwaukee broadcasters seem to love Monta Ellis as they interviewed him after the game. But hey, maybe those broadcasters from Milwaukee are just paid to say they agree with the Monta Ellis trade for Andrew Bogut.
        Do you think its genuine or would they be criticized by ownership if they admitted they actually dislike Mr. Ellis.

        Even though Ellis played poorly, he still hit the ‘dagger’. Tough for Monta Haters to take I’m sure. Saw that when he was with the Warriors many times.

        One last thought: How did Andrew do last night?

    • If Ellis had shot more accurately, last night’s game might have been a rout. He’s not finishing on his drives and his mid-range is off. His shooting is just off. With the Warriors, he was shooting 45%, but now he’s down to 40%.

      • rgg,

        Agree with you, Ellis played poorly last night, but gritted it out and the Bucks somehow managed to win. Some of his drives were out of control, maybe trying to get fouled. He didn’t get calls, resulting in a technical for the Head coach Boylan when he disagreed with the lack of calls. Ellis is going to have to increase his shooting percentage if the Bucks are to make a run in the playoffs. The Bucks do seem to be a frustrating team. Illyasova, doesn’t handle the pick and roll at all, nor manage the shot clock as the Warriors almost tied the game before Ellis shot. Almost result in a loss for Milwaukee. Not a big fan of Skiles and his slow motion offense, but I can see where the Bucks with all their talent seem to underachieve. Sanders is impressive though. Hopefully Monta can make a good run in the 2nd half of the season and we can root for a Warriors – Bucks series in the NBA Finals LOL.

    • Thanks Steve.

      Apparently this author has my same viewpoint regarding Monta Ellis.

      The Monta Ellis Myth.

  23. From ESPN’s Weekend Dime:

    Western Conference scout on the “most interesting story no one is talking about”:

    “You’re asking a tough question there. I read ESPN.com every day. There’s not a lot of things you guys don’t talk about.

    “This isn’t really a secret or anything, but I’m fascinated by Golden State. I haven’t had the chance to see them a lot, so I can’t really tell you why they’ve improved so much defensively and rebounding the ball without [Andrew] Bogut even playing.

    “What’s the deal with that? That’s something they’ve been trying to get over the hump with for several years and there were no hints at all that things were going to turn around [with Bogut injured all season]. I’d like to see more of them, so I can figure that out. Hopefully I’ll have some answers next time.”

    http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-130125-26/nba-scouts-saying-now

    If this anonymous scout started updating himself on the Warriors by watching these last two games I’m sure he’s in a complete state of bewilderment now (GSW’s defensive and rebounding improvements). For the sake of the Warriors hopefully they’ll start giving this guy some answers pretty soon.

  24. This roster needs help, and it needs it now. The Warriors don’t have a single player over 6’9″ who can score. The Bucks have seven.

  25. For the second straight game, Kobe has taken around a dozen shots and had a dozen plus assists. And guess what—

    They won. OKC today.

  26. At least Harrison Barnes got Dunk of the Night at Yahoo:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/video/dunk-night-171600925.html

    (Why am I not impressed.)

    My dominant memory is of his driving and losing the ball, or not finishing, or not getting the foul. A serious driver could make a difference in many games, especially when the Warriors are outsized.

  27. Uh oh. After umpteen seasons, did Kobe’s lightbulb just come on?

    • The Lakers would make an absolutely horrible first round playoff matchup… OKC, the Clips, or the Spurs might actually “tank” for 2nd or 3rd place! LOL!

    • Her Leopardskin Pillbox...

      Wouldn’t bet on Kobe’s lightbulb. Probably just a statistical abberation. Lots of games, unusual things happen.

    • Kobe was also more efficient in those two games. I almost wish Curry and Klay would ration their shots to 15 or so just to get other players to score. If they don’t score and the team loses, so be it. The Warriors will need other scorers down the stretch.

      Problem is, I don’t know if the team has the players.

      I also wonder if doing so would make them more efficient—Curry’s % is down.

  28. The Celtics situation is another example of how quickly fortunes can change (even though WITH Rondo they were still going to be longshots in most postseason scenarios). Always better to be lucky than good, in sports, life, you name it. Always. The teams who combine both “good” and “lucky” are those who’s championship aspirations are most likely to evolve into reality.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba–rajon-rondo-season-ending-knee-injury-boston-celtics-face-harsh-new-reality-014726749.html

      • TrueHoop TV: The week the Laker dream died

        http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8881413

        One thing in the Lakers favor is that now most so-called experts have the Lakers missing the playoffs, which takes away a lot of the pressure that comes with high expectations, and suddenly changes the players mental approach into more of an “us against the world/nobody believes in us anymore” mindset.

        Also, the fact remains that the bottom half of the Western Conference is and is going to be a real scramble to the end, which opens the door to a second half drive by a team or two now currently on the cusp of the top 8. The Lakers aren’t that far removed from the 8th seed in the loss column (3 games).

        This is really going to get interesting, including for the Warriors, who are no lock IMO for the playoffs with all their road games still to come between now and the first week of March. In the near term Denver is almost a certainty to pass GSW and drop the Dubs to 6th, then what happens? The Warriors have a ton of home games in March but that part of the schedule is still off in the distance. If they don’t win tonight in Toronto they’ll be staring at a possible 0-4 road trip, and that wouldn’t be a good omen looking ahead to their 4 games in 5 nighter for next week that on paper looks much tougher than this trip (Houston, OKC, Memphis, Dallas). They’d better reach for a new grip on that rope in a hurry.

        Playoff prospects aside, I thought it was interesting food for thought when during that TrueHoop video they broached the subject of best center in the league/the West.

        I think if the Warriors are fortunate enough (there’s that “luck factor” again) to get Bogut back AND get him back at close to full health AND he stays close to fully healthy for the duration, the argument can definitely be made that the best center in the West would reside right here by the Bay, a possible fact that would go quite nicely with a home-heavy end-of-season schedule and securing a postseason berth.

  29. Marcus Thompson:

    Jackson received high praise last season for getting a roster loaded with rookies, journeymen and NBA Development League call-ups to play hard. But perhaps what he’s been able to pull off this season is more impressive.

    He’s down two key players, he has three rookies in his rotation, his most productive lineup consists of three guards and two forwards, and his best players are B-list stars.

    Yet, the Warriors have done so well that consecutive road losses in January — to Chicago and Milwaukee — look more like the beginning of the end.

    “We have to realize what we have to do to get it back,” Jackson said. “We’ve got a group of guys who understand who we are. … We have a team that has a history of bouncing back. We’ll do that. But at the same time, it’s my job as a coach to basically bring it out of guys.”

    Jackson has said his team isn’t as good as many think it is and not as bad people expect it to be. That in-between stage requires plenty manipulation and maneuvering.

    http://www.insidebayarea.com/warriors/ci_22462614/golden-state-warriors-coach-mark-jackson-keeps-even?source=rss

  30. The Warriors have done so well this year garnering so any defensive rebounds for two reasons. One, opponents have missed more shots than they did last year. Secondly, opponents have not crashed their own offensive boards and deny defensive rebounds. All that changed the last two games. With the Warriors playing mostly small line-up, the Warriors were killed on the boards. The Warriors can somewhat nullify such result by playing bigger line-ups and running off of obtaining defensive rebounds, which will result in opponents wanting to get back on defense, rather than crash the offensive boards.

    The Warriors need to stop giving up so many extra possessions and second chance points off of offensive rebounds.

  31. Moto,no.8:

    While you are enchanted with Ezeli and Green (I’m not) , neither perform anywhere near what Udoh did for the Warriors. On a good Warriors team, the Warriors have been outscored by their opponents over 48 minutes by almost 2 points with Ezeli on the court, and have outscored their opponents by 2.4 points with with Green on the court.
    Not bad, but nowhere near what Udoh did for the Warriors.

    In his first year, playing on a losing Warrior team, the Warriors outscored their opponents with Udoh on the court by 5 points, and last year, by a whopping 8.7 points. So, your assessment of players is way off-base. Neither will ever be the defensive player that Udoh was for the Warriors, nor will Bogut for that matter.

    Even with Bogut joining the Warriors and his having better offensive stats, such will not result with the Warriors outscoring their opponents by such large margins. Even with D. Lee playing for a better team this year, the Warriors are just plus 4. The best assessment of Bogut is that the Warriors may outscore their opponents by 3. Last year, with Bogut for the Bucks, the Bucks outscored their opponents by 2.

    • oui, francois, we understand your penchant for the plus minus stats, and yes, udoh would be useful on this team, but shipping him was the price of doing bidness and the team has improved this year despite losing his great influence on the plus/minus stat chart. consider another stat — green’s significantly higher rate of rebounding relative to udoh.

      • @Frank – if Ezeli is -2 and he is replaced in the starting lineup with Bogut who was +3 in limited duty with the Bucks last season…

        Is that -(-2) + 3 = 5? LOL!

      • Marc J. Spears (Twitter):

        Warriors will not impose a minute limit on Andrew Bogut if he returns to action tonight at Toronto. “Depends on how he feels,” source said.

        • It now looks like Peter Vecsey’s source from last week was on to something. Bogut, per the source, was cleared by doctors to start practicing with the team. That was a little over a week ago, after which I started speculating about Bogut returning for the game vs the Bucks. If he indeed plays tonight that would seem to indicate he could have played Saturday but possibly wanted to skip all the pr hooplah that a return vs his former team would most certainly have generated.

          Still lots of questions to be answered including fitness level, ankle response to full game action, and his bounce back capabilities after playing on any given night. Here’s where we’ll start to find out just how lucky the Warriors really are as this could still all blow up in their faces. Hopefully for Bogut’s sake, who’s really had a lot of rotten luck injury-wise in recent years, the good times (winning and good health) are about to begin.

          • From Sam Amick (USA TODAY):

            Golden State center Andrew Bogut may make his long-awaited return tonight at Toronto, a person with knowledge of his situation confirmed.

            The person spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity because the team is not commenting on his situation. The Bay Area News Group first reported the news and has deemed his return likely.

            A target date had been set for Bogut’s return internally, but he would be returning ahead of that date if he does indeed play tonight. The Warriors play at Cleveland on Tuesday night and host Dallas on Thursday.

            http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/warriors/2013/01/28/andrew-bogut-injury-return-warriors/1870991/

  32. Bogut to play tonight?

    http://www.mercurynews.com/warriors/ci_22466034/warriors-andrew-bogut-might-play-monday-at-toronto

    Was it simply a coincidence that a couple of days ago sources told MT2 that Bogut was a month away? Or part of a plan?

    • That was the Andrew Bogut myth.

      • The “Myth” returns! Could have used him on the glass the last couple of games! Lol!

        Little credence given to any W’s “source.” They messed that one up already. We’ll see him when we see him on the court.

      • Steve, Bogut would have likely gotten booed if he had played Saturday. Not a myth.

        • Warren Davis, since you’re a guy who likes facts and nothing but the facts, let me give you some about Bogut and his days with Milwaukee:

          Bogut finished his rookie season with the Bucks averaging 9.4 ppg and 7.0 rpg. He was named to the 2005–06 All-Rookie First Team and finished third in votes for the 2006 NBA Rookie of the Year Award.

          Bogut’s sophomore season in the league was cut short after spraining his left foot and being put on the injured reserve for the final 15 games. He had previously played in 153 consecutive games. He showed improvement in his second year in the league as he averaged 12.3 points and 8.8 rebounds per game. Bogut was considered one of the best passing centers in the league, having averaged 3.0 assists per game in the 2006–07 season.

          In the 2007–08 NBA season the Australian center showed career highs in points (14.3), rebounds (9.8), blocks (1.7), steals (0.8) and minutes (34.9) per game. Also in 2007–08, Bogut started a career high 78 times.

          On 3 April 2010, during a game against the Phoenix Suns in Milwaukee, Bogut suffered a major right elbow and hand injury after falling hard to the floor following a slam dunk. The next day the Bucks announced he had suffered a dislocated right elbow, broken right hand, and a wrist sprain. Bogut had been having a breakout 2009-2010 season, averaging 15.9 points, 10.3 rebounds, and 2.6 blocks per game (2nd in the League). He was named to the 2009–10 All-NBA Third Team following this breakout season and became the first Australian to earn All-NBA honors.

          Career highs:

          Points – 32 @ Dallas, 27 January 2010
          Field Goals Made – 14, 2 times
          Field Goals Attempted – 23 vs. Chicago, 8 January 2010
          Three Point Field Goals Made – 1 vs. Phoenix, 1 December 2006
          Three Point Field Goals Attempted – 1, 21 Times
          Free Throws Made – 9 vs. Chicago, 14 April 2008
          Free Throws Attempted – 16 vs. Orlando, 4 December 2010
          Offensive Rebounds – 10 vs. Detroit, 9 February 2010
          Defensive Rebounds – 20 vs. Miami, 7 January 2011
          Total Rebounds – 27 vs. Miami, 7 January 2011
          Assists – 8 vs. Toronto, 12 March 2007
          Steals – 4 vs. Cleveland, 1 January 2007
          Blocks – 7, 4 times
          Minutes Played – 50 @ New Orleans/Oklahoma City, 8 February 2007

          ————————————-

          Plain and simply, Andrew Bogut was the best player on the Milwaukee Bucks during his career there. And the fans would have booed him because (he dislocated his right elbow, broke his right hand, and almost a year ago to the day broke his ankle)?

          On that note, I have to remind myself to make sure I attend at least one Warriors game next season so I can boo Brandon Rush like crazy for blowing out his knee. You da man, WD. LOL

          • No one has ever said Bogus is not a competent NBA player. My problem with your incessant negative posts and selective amnesia is the double standard you and your alter ego’s apply for Monta Ellis during his time as a Warrior.

            Steve, you are an Echo chamber for the Lacobites pure and simple. But it was great to read your concession Ellis was a good player (in his own right) and you would applaud him if you ever actually attend a game in person. Sometimes it is difficult for me to get to the other entertaining and well written posts.

            Ellis is not hall of fame caliber, but he provided tremendous efforts for Warrior fans for many years.

          • Steve, you forgot the five rebounds Bogut had earlier this season against Cleveland. LOL.

  33. Yao Ming on centers in the NBA today:

    “I feel sorry for the big guys,” Yao said, while mentioning Dwight Howard, Tyson Chandler, Brook Lopez and former Georgetown star Roy Hibbert. “But if you’re looking through the history of basketball, the rule is always about limiting the power from the big man. Not the strongest survive, but the fittest. We have to make an adjustment to fit in those rules.”

    Yao mentioned the three-point line and zone defenses, among other changes, for diminishing centers. He then asked: “What is a big man right now? Usually you talk a 7-footer or 6-10 and above around the paint. But now, all those 6-10, 6-11 guys like Kevin Durant, they play small forward; they play point guard.”

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/yao-ming-checks-discuss-jeremy-lin-rise-disappearing-181531823–nba.html

    • “But now, all those 6-10, 6-11 guys like Kevin Durant, they play small forward; they play point guard.”

      All those guys like Kevin Durant? LOL There’s lots of “all those 6-10, 6-11 guys” out there (Brandan Wright, Anthony Randolph, etc) but there’s no such thing as “all those guys like Kevin Durant”. Him and LeBron are in another world.

  34. Moto: Keep the ball from going through the cylinder is much more significant than rebounds. Regardless, the Warriors did quite well rebounding the ball with Udoh on the court as indicated by his high plus rating and rebounding stats from last year.

    The Warriors are doing better this year due to the addition of Landry and Jack. The draft class are mainly fillers. They’e done well to help keep the Warriors in games, but nothing to shout home about.

    Trading two decent players like Udoh and Ellis for an injured player and a bloated contract is a stupid price to pay for doing business. It did not make the team better. It may well turn out that the Warriors do not go as far as they could have in the post-seaon because of the trade.Time will tell.

    • the fantasy trades and fantasy rosters you propose are *supposed* to be better than the real ones ; that’s the gift of imaginary things. whatever the actual team accomplishes this season, of course the fantasy roster (would that be with ellis suppressing curry and dragging down the team defense, or a fantasy trade shipping curry out?) would have exceeded it.

  35. rgg: I agree with you that the Warriors need another big.

    To bad, that some posters are stuck on individual stats and don’t realize that the plus rating of a player over the course of a season sometimes shows a player’s worth to a team’s performance than individual stats of another player, who has good individual stats, but does not clearly contribute as much to the team’s postive performance. e.g.. Bogut v. Udoh.

    • Most of their losses have been against teams where they were seriously outsized—including Denver and lowly Sacramento, a few days ago Milwaukee.

      The FO’s solution was to go for one supposedly dominant and expensive center—Bogut. Instead they could have used this money (and I would argue now Ellis as a trade piece) to get a couple of less expensive alternatives such as Hickson (Portland) and others, who might fill in at other roles and other offensive sets, who, though smaller, are faster and more agile. Maybe they could have traded elsewhere to get a draft pick—Ezeli, and bring him up. They could have kept Udoh, who is larger and stronger than Green. And maybe they could have gotten another player they needed—a veteran 2 or 3.

  36. Steve, I know you were calling the Bucks game for Bogut’s return. But being off by just one game…I’m gonna give you this one. You’re a freakin’ genius!

    NO INJURIES!!!

    • True dat! I think Steve is the GSW’s trainer in disguise! Nice guess!

      • PeteyB, I just got off the phone with Curry. He’ll be icing all night. LOL

        “Nice guess” about sums up that tune. Actually, I can’t even take a smidgen of credit since my reasoning had everything to do with the assumption he wanted to play in that game Saturday night vs his former team. Turns out (apparently) that he wanted to make sure he skipped that whole scene and then go from there. Regardless, I’m just happy to see him back on the court helping the Warriors win games.

    • “You’re a freakin’ genius!” LOL, I wish. Great to see Bogut back playing. Now let’s hope he stays healthy. Nice win except for another Curry ankle issue.

  37. Felt, if you hurry, you still have time to type up your Andrew Bogut Myth post before tip off.

    Let’s do this!

  38. Ed Davis looked good. Why did the Warriors pass on him (2010, 13th. pick).

    I will only think good thoughts about Bogut from here on out.

  39. Hopefully this game will end the nonsensical idea that the return of Andrew Bogut would be a negative for GSW in any way, shape or form. This guy is really good and makes others around him better. The ball moves because he’s such a good passer to go along with his high hoops IQ. The Warriors had 7 players score in double digits and their 114 points is their third highest point total of the month. GSW is going to score more, not less, with Bogut back.

    Plus, his presence in the paint in the 4th qtrs of games will mean more key rebounds when rebounding becomes even more important. Not to mention his low post offensive abilities which will provide more options when the Dubs are looking for those big baskets down the stretch.

    Listening to his postgame interview with Barnett I think it’s safe to assume he won’t be playing tomorrow night vs the Cavs. He wants to play it safe between now and the All Star break and I can’t blame him for wanting to be smart about this entire process. He’s put in too much work rehabbing to now over do it in regards minutes and games played these next few weeks. I would imagine it’ll be all systems go after the break if everything stays the course between now and then.

    Game recap from CSNBayArea.com:

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/warriors/instant-replay-warriors-114-raptors-102

    • From ESPN:

      Jackson said Bogut “completes us as a team.”

      To Lee, Bogut’s biggest contribution was anchoring the defense.

      “I felt like I became a better defender tonight because he’s constantly talking to me and constantly rotating to get my back,” Lee said.

      Bogut hadn’t played since Nov. 7 due to soreness in his surgically repaired left ankle. He finished with eight rebounds and four blocks in 23 minutes.

      “It’s been a long season for me so far, a frustrating season both mentally and physically,” he said. “Just to be out there running up and down the court again, and especially getting a win, was very satisfying.”

      The top pick in the 2005 draft, Bogut said he had an “explosiveness” that was lacking in his brief four-game spell earlier this season. He had two dunks, including a running, soaring slam in the second quarter off a pass from Curry.

      “That kind of showed my ankle was feeling pretty good,” Bogut said.

      Curry called Bogut’s return “a huge bonus.”

      “He showed tonight how he can clog the paint, protect the rim and even make plays on the offensive end,” Curry said.

      All five Golden State starters reached double figures in scoring, the first time that’s happened this season. … The Warriors finished with 62 points in the paint, a season high.

      http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278379

        • Game highlights from NBA.com

          • Postgame quotes:

            David Lee
            Thoughts on the game?:

            “I think we finally got to settle in today. We are only going to get better working together. We had 62 points in the paint tonight, I thought that was because we really focused on going inside and finishing at the rim. I was really happy with the way it went.”

            How important was this game after getting beat on the boards a little bit?:

            “It was huge to get back into the winning ways tonight and give ourselves a chance to make this into a successful road trip tomorrow night. Another successful road trip is great. We needed this one tonight absolutely. Andrew (Bogut) really helped us defensively, I thought Jarrett (Jack) had a really good second half and Carl (Landry) gave us some big buckets. We got a contribution from everybody and I hope Steph (Curry) is doing okay, it looks like he is going to be fine. We move onto the next one.”

            What does Andrew Bogut do for your offensive game?:

            “I think they really need to honor him, when he rolls. As we go on our high low game is going to be very effective, just because it hard for teams to help in on that high low because you such good shooters on the wing. It is going to create some more problems for other team’s defences. First and foremost Andrew’s (Bogut) contribution is he anchors our defence and I felt like I became a better defender tonight because he is constantly talking to me, and constantly rotating to get my back and vice-versa.”

            Stephen Curry
            Thoughts on having Andrew Bogut back?:

            “It was a big help. Dre (Andris Biedrins) did a good job holding down the centre position, but to have the guy we thought we were going to have coming into the season, he showed tonight how he can clog the paint, protect the rim and make plays on the offensive end. It is a huge bonus for us to have him back. He is a presence, you see a big body like that it might deter guys from coming into the paint.”

            How is your ankle?:

            “It feels alright, same situation I just stepped on someone’s foot and have to see how it responds tomorrow.”

            Andrew Bogut
            Thoughts on finally being back?:

            “Yes definitely. It has been a long season for me so far, a frustrating season mentally and physically. To be out there running up and down the court and especially to get the win, it was very satisfying. I was excited to be out there and play basketball again. It has been a bumpy ride but I think it is at a stage now where I am ready to progress.”

          • Bogut highlights

          • “The Return Of Bogut: Australian For Cheer”

            “It’s very easy,” Bogut said of sharing the frontcourt with Lee. “We’re both high basketball IQ guys so it’s not like some issues where we need to practice together for a month to get to know each other. I’ve been studying the way he plays when I’ve been hurt. I’m watching guys’ tendencies, not just David’s but everybody’s. I think we’re both great passers, great ballhandlers, we complement each other pretty well.”

            “I think that as we go on our high-low game is going to be very effective just because it’s hard for teams to help in on that high-low because you have such good shooters on the wings,” Lee said. “So it’s going to create some more problems for other teams’ defenses.”

            Lee could barely get that sentence out before praising Bogut’s defense, though. In Milwaukee, Bogut was one of the best defenders on the planet — strong and smart, directing his teammates, the rare big man who plays great post defense and pick-and-roll defense, blocks shots and takes charges. That’s the main reason Bogut was brought to the Bay Area. Late in the second quarter, he blocked a DeMar DeRozan driving layup. Then, after his pass to Curry didn’t connect, he blocked a Gray layup. It happened in a span of 10 seconds.

            “I felt like I became a better defender tonight because he’s constantly talking to me and constantly rotating to get my back and vice versa,” Lee said. “That’s going to be the major improvement and I’m excited for us to continue to get used to playing on the same frontline and being even better.”

            “Some guys might think, ‘Whoa, this guy’s been out for all this time, he’s already telling us where to go.’ But I think defensively I see a lot,” Bogut said. “I’m a pretty vocal guy, so I’m [calling] out screens, making sure guys don’t get nailed, making sure there’s help at all times. I’ve got no problem doing that.”

            Bogut’s teammates have no problem with it either. “To have a veteran like that — obviously we had Festus [Ezeli], who was playing most of his minutes, so a guy that knows the game a little better, I think it’ll show in our defensive performances,” Curry said.

            http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-130128/daily-dime

          • More game highlights

    • Feltbot, I don’t think the Warriors can complain too much about Harrison Barnes’ play this season. Here’s the a paragraph from the writer and a quote from Dwayne Casey about Terrance Ross, the 9th overall pick. Barnes is similar, except I’d say Barnes makes one good play and one bad play:

      “The Raptors used their pick on Terrence Ross, and he has had his moments. He’s significantly slighter than Barnes, which hurts his defensive abilities in the short-term. He is hyper-athletic, too, already one of the best dunkers in the league. But he was the lesser prospect, and not quite as reliable as his draft classmate.

      “He’s still making a lot of mistakes, but he’s learning,” Casey said. “Like most rookies, he does one good play and makes two bad ones. But that’s part of being a rookie. He’s really grown a lot as a player in the last couple of weeks, last three weeks. I’m really proud of the way he’s playing. He’s built a lot of trust with his teammates and coaching staff and the things he’s doing on the court.”

  40. The W’s Death Star is nearly complete.

    Chanting in the background, “Bo-gut, Bo-gut, Bo-gut!”

    Andrew Bogut – out of shape – really looks like he’s going to tremendously impact this team down the stretch and into the playoffs. Finally, offensive production from C position, instead of turnovers. Defensively, Bogut had 5 blocks (one they didn’t give him credit for on a one on one break) and the size and length W’s fans have been dreaming about.

    Monta Ellis who?

    There was a Falcon sighting – and it was beautiful!!!

    Granted, the Toronto Raptors are struggling – but this road game was a nice effort after back to back losses where the W’s were killed on the glass. And the Raptors were missing Lowry and Bargnani (spelling?) so I’m absolutely certain posters here will remind us of this fact.

    • Harrison vs. Ross? Ross looks like he might be a good player one day – athletic/quick. I’ll take Harrison, as he’s better right now.

      • It was the less the case in the second half, but was the first and I’ve seen this often. When Barnes gets the ball, there’s a half second delay before he acts, whether to pass, shoot, or drive. It’s enough time for the defense to close in. I don’t know if this can be corrected or if he’s just slow to react.

      • Better at what, exactly?

        The most important difference between the two is on defense, and it’s major. Is that the end of the floor you’ve been watching?

        The next biggest difference is that Ross is a 2, which the Warriors desperately need, and that Barnes is a 3, which they don’t need at all.

        • Forget about all that. When is “The Andrew Bogut Myth” DVD coming out? Or is it a CD? Whatever, I hope they don’t sellout before I can get mine.

        • Barnes has been fairly steady this season — He doesn’t make crucial mistakes in crucial situations, he adds a little bit of scoring most nights and he crashes the glass. Also, as much as you hate on his defense, he does jump at shooters which contributes to the lower than usual 3-point percentage the Warriors have allowed.

          I have not read a good explanation of why other teams are shooting a low percentage from 3 against the Warriors. Feltbot claims it is luck. Perhaps it’s the fact that Thompson, Jack, Barnes and even Curry bother three point shooters. This season I have seen more Warriors jumping toward the correct hand while opponents shoot three pointers than ever before. It’s also something that Barnett comments on regularly. Maybe that’s the reason.

          • the team is doing a much better job than recent versions in re-covering the shooters out on the extra point line. all four rookies are long and quick, and have clearly received the message that playing team d is their first requirement for getting playing time, which isn’t true for many teams where young players want the stats for that big second contract. it’s not popular to bring up what ellis’ absence has done for perimeter/team defense, but how high can the ceiling be if one of the captains and a critical starter is either clueless or at best mercurial in his attention on one side of the court [the usual stuff about him being the best guard defender, one on one, was partly true about one game out of three, affected a little less by one of his flaws, watching the ball too much]. ellis also had nearly the shortest arms in the entire league (robinson at 5’10 has considerably more length).

        • Draft for talent – trade for need. Harrison Barnes has value around the league and can always be shipped for a SG if Klay Thompson is the SF of the future.

          Is Klay Thompson is a SG or a SF? Still to be determined, but your argument for SF does have merit. Also, Klay definitely needs to go to the weight room to play SF.

          It’s marginal, but Barnes IS incrementally better at everything as a rookie than Terrence Ross. Harrison Barnes is more polished and had a better game/stat line vs. the Raptors than Ross.

          The mistake in the draft was passing on size, altheticism, and youth in A. Drummond. It was a huge risk – but definitely has paid off for the Pistons… Passing on Ross? Not at all…

      • “The Grizzlies have unsuccessfully tried to pry Raptors rookie Terrence Ross as part of the deal, sources said. Toronto has deemed Ross untouchable in these talks.”

        http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba–grizzlies–raptors-looking-for-third-team-to-facilitate-rudy-gay-trade-033758281.html

        • Agreed – I also wouldn’t trade Gay for Ross’ rookie contract.

          And I wouldn’t trade Gay for Harrison’s rookie contract either.

          And all rumors regarding Gay for Klay Thompson’s rookie deal are laughable… Klay is only going to get better and better and is cheap for couple more years…

    • Where did Toronto get their center Aaron Gray? 22 points and 10 rebounds. Never heard of this guy, but he looks like he can play. Nice moves inside. Raptors bigs all looked quick and young.

  41. @40

    Warren Davis | January 29, 2013 at 8:54 am |

    No one has ever said Bogus is not a competent NBA player (Actually, you implied just that when you said he would have been booed in Milwaukee) . My problem with your incessant negative posts and selective amnesia is the double standard you and your alter ego’s apply for Monta Ellis during his time as a Warrior.

    Steve, you are an Echo chamber for the Lacobites pure and simple. But it was great to read your concession Ellis was a good player (in his own right) and you would applaud him if you ever actually attend a game in person. Sometimes it is difficult for me to get to the other entertaining and well written posts.

    Ellis is not hall of fame caliber, but he provided tremendous efforts for Warrior fans for many years.

    Warren Davis | January 29, 2013 at 8:57 am |

    Steve, you forgot the five rebounds Bogut had earlier this season against Cleveland. LOL.

    —————————————

    Warren Davis, I’m still waiting for even one example of myself bashing Monta in a prior post. And guess what? I’ll still be waiting and waiting and waiting………in fact, this blog has a better chance of being renamed “Joe Lacob; The Genius Behind The Wheel Of GSW”, before you’ll ever be able to produce what you claim I’ve posted in the past.

    My “concession speech” in regards Monta Ellis was made last year after he was traded. Here’s what I had to say about Monta and the trade right after it went down:

    Steve | March 13, 2012 at 9:15 pm | Reply

    The key to all this is we get Stack Jack back! YES!!

    Seriously, like all trades, the final grades on this one won’t be out for some time. If the Warriors turn into one of the better teams in the West in the coming years then this move will ultimately be lauded. If the Warriors stature as a perennial lottery team continues then so will the negativity.

    What I don’t like:

    No more Monta. Maybe not a GREAT player but unquestionably was a GREAT player to watch play the game. His physical stats belied his toughness. Pound for pound Monta is as tough as anyone in the NBA. From a fan’s perspective he will be sorely missed.

    After being initially disappointed in Udoh his growth as an all around player was just starting to impress. If he can ever develop into a more proficient rebounder his draft position would be ultimately justified, albeit to the satisfaction of another team.

    What I like:

    The thought of the Warriors actually having a very good big man in the middle is quite nice. Also, the thought of Bogut and Lee playing together gets the excitement meter hopping.

    Klay Thompson now starts playing much more. This kid is going to be very good and getting more significant minutes the rest of this season will only expedite his development.

    Charles Jenkins now also gets increased minutes. I like the little I’ve seen of Jenkins and look forward to watching him play more.

    In summary, you have to give to get. To replace a very good “small” with a very good “big” is something most NBA followers would give a big thumbs up to. Breaking your ankle doesn’t make you “injury prone”. Most of Bogut’s injuries have been of that nature, not the kind that would be associated with conditioning or frail physique.

    If Bogut had not been injured this season would the Bucks have ever made this trade? IMO, absolutely not. From my standpoint, if Bogut, given his all around ability and age (27), remains relatively injury-free for the rest of his career, he will be a tremendous asset for this team in the long run.

    Monta was a volume scorer which meant he usually took a lot of shots and had the ball in his hands a great deal of the time. Without Monta the ball will now be distributed much differently and more equally, not really such a bad thing. Tonight, they hit the 100 pt mark with almost half the 4th qtr remaining.

    As I’ve continually maintained throughout, this new regime is a work-in-progress that can not and will not be accurately evaluated for a number of years. Ditto the coaching staff. I remain very positive going forward and if their win in Sac is any indication of what’s ahead the Oracle will definitely be a good time out in the future.

    —————————————

    And those 5 rebounds? It was 15 rebounds! Or was it 8? Are you sure they were playing Cleveland? Facts, Warren Davis, facts!

    Hasta la seeya

    • Steve, Here are just a few recent posts, I got tired of going through
      the previous posts, I had only ten minutes, so I recalled only 5. You probably don’t read your own posts!

      1)
      Steve | January 8, 2013 at 11:07 am | Reply

      “10 Things To Know About: The Warriors”

      They don’t miss Monta Ellis.”

      Perhaps more than any other player, Ellis represents the past of Golden State basketball. The most high-profile of
      the two holdovers from the We Believe Warriors, Ellis hijacked the team’s identity with his gaudy numbers and
      flashy performances. But by trading their miniature moped enthusiast before last year’s trade deadline for Bogut,
      Golden State invested in a future that was un-Ellis-like in virtually every way.
      It was ball-dominant offense for ball-stopping defense.”

      2) Steve | January 8, 2013

      Even with Bogut unavailable for the bulk of his time since, the addition by subtraction alone was bound to aid the defense,
      but the Warriors also haven’t missed Ellis much on the offensive end, either. While no one Warriors player has the same
      knack for getting to the rim off the bounce, Landry and Lee have provided ample at-the-rim opportunities.

      3) Steve | November 9, 2012 at 6:59 pm |
      moto, unfortunately for any team that employs the services of Monta Ellis,
      you’ll have to wait and hope that some day he comes to the realization that there’s no “I” in “team”……
      For years, NBA types have speculated that Ellis would make a great Sixth Man on a championship contender,
      a potent offensive weapon as a combo guard off some stacked team’s bench. He’s heard it too, and has zero interest in it.

      “Say what now?” Ellis said, unsmiling Thursday when the idea was floated again.
      “I don’t believe that. People are entitled to their own opinion. You put me on a team with a whole bunch of guys,
      I guarantee you that I’m going to win that starting position. No matter who it is.”

      4) Steve | January 10, 2013 at 8:46 am | Reply

      Charley Rosen: The NBA’s most overrated players

      Monta Ellis is another high-volume shooter who can’t differentiate between a good shot and a bad one.
      Also, his assist-to-turnover rate is only marginally acceptable.

      5) “Monta have it all” video comments. And mocking Ellis about the interview comparing himself to Wade.

      Steve, Contrast your above posts with your comments about Bogut (implying the trade was great no matter what). Nothing against
      AB, but I mention it because you constantly Parrot Fitz, Lacob, MT, and TK…so it is presented as a comparison only.

      Steve | January 8, 2013 at 10:54 pm | Reply

      “…
      Assuming Bogut returns this season his added presence, at ANY degree/percentage of health, will instantly make the Warriors a better team. Any “myth” that attempts to say otherwise is pure nonsense.

      I guess I received Steve’s Wrath because I dared correct you on two errors, which you actually repeated. Seems, I dared correct you on the fact you gave Bogut credit for controlling a game, as he helped the Dubs to 3-2 record. I corrected you that he didn’t even play in one of your wins. I corrected you when he also failed to score in the other one stated Bogut controlled the game (November game against Cleveland where he actually played so poorly he left the team to rehab the very next day).

      Monta carries a team – no impact.

      I hope Bogut stays healthy, but the double standard you apply between the him and Monta echoes the Lacob media. Just had to note that. Even my casual reading of this blog makes it striking.

      It is ironic Feltbot positions himself as often the only blog/reporter who counters the paid team media with unique reporting, and you merely mimic the reported talking points. That’s okay, just be prepared for disagreement and fact checking to your posts.

      • Warren Davis | January 30, 2013 at 10:27 am | Reply

        Steve, Here are just a few recent posts, I got tired of going through
        the previous posts, I had only ten minutes, so I recalled only 5. You probably don’t read your own posts!

        1)
        Steve | January 8, 2013 at 11:07 am | Reply

        “10 Things To Know About: The Warriors”

        They don’t miss Monta Ellis.”

        Perhaps more than any other player, Ellis represents the past of Golden State basketball. The most high-profile of
        the two holdovers from the We Believe Warriors, Ellis hijacked the team’s identity with his gaudy numbers and
        flashy performances. But by trading their miniature moped enthusiast before last year’s trade deadline for Bogut,
        Golden State invested in a future that was un-Ellis-like in virtually every way.
        It was ball-dominant offense for ball-stopping defense.”

        Warren Davis, congrats for taking 10 minutes in an attempt to make your point. Unfortunately, your efforts came up so full of holes I’ll call it your “Swiss Cheese Rebuttal”. LOL

        Your first copied post was written by Justin Verrier of ESPN.com. Not one word of that post was written by “Steve”.

        2) Steve | January 8, 2013

        Even with Bogut unavailable for the bulk of his time since, the addition by subtraction alone was bound to aid the defense,
        but the Warriors also haven’t missed Ellis much on the offensive end, either. While no one Warriors player has the same
        knack for getting to the rim off the bounce, Landry and Lee have provided ample at-the-rim opportunities.

        Second verse, same as the first. Your second example was just another paragraph from that same ESPN.com article.

        3) Steve | November 9, 2012 at 6:59 pm |
        moto, unfortunately for any team that employs the services of Monta Ellis,
        you’ll have to wait and hope that some day he comes to the realization that there’s no “I” in “team”……
        For years, NBA types have speculated that Ellis would make a great Sixth Man on a championship contender,
        a potent offensive weapon as a combo guard off some stacked team’s bench. He’s heard it too, and has zero interest in it.

        “Say what now?” Ellis said, unsmiling Thursday when the idea was floated again.
        “I don’t believe that. People are entitled to their own opinion. You put me on a team with a whole bunch of guys,
        I guarantee you that I’m going to win that starting position. No matter who it is.”

        Here I was adding my thoughts to a Milwaukee blog called “Bucksketball” where they talked about Monta’s comments in regards his possible future as a 6th man off the bench. Monta said “no way”, I intimated that he looks selfish by saying that. While I don’t consider that “bashing”, I’ll give you a half point on that one.

        4) Steve | January 10, 2013 at 8:46 am | Reply

        Charley Rosen: The NBA’s most overrated players

        Monta Ellis is another high-volume shooter who can’t differentiate between a good shot and a bad one.
        Also, his assist-to-turnover rate is only marginally acceptable.

        That was written by Charley Rosen of Hoopshype. His article named about 20 players all told, I highlighted his comments on Monta for obvious local interest reasons.

        5) “Monta have it all” video comments. And mocking Ellis about the interview comparing himself to Wade.

        I never “mocked” Monta. I posted the video where he compared himself to Wade but never made any comments (although there were quite a few by others). In a later post I stated that I didn’t believe there were a lot of “Monta haters”, only those who believe that the Warriors are a better team today by making that trade, and I agreed with those sentiments.

        What’s bothered me most about Monta recently were his comments about not wanting to play from off the bench if it meant his services were deemed better suited for a 6th man role. Nope, said Monta, he was no bench player, under any circumstances. The quotes were a big turnoff for me since they reeked of selfishness, IMO. I reiterate, I liked Monta when he played here, but I think the Warriors were smart in trading him.

        So, all of the above you define as “incessant” bashing of Monta? LOL, whatever.

        Steve, Contrast your above posts with your comments about Bogut (implying the trade was great no matter what). Nothing against
        AB, but I mention it because you constantly Parrot Fitz, Lacob, MT, and TK…so it is presented as a comparison only.

        No, they actually are the ones who are “parroting” me. LOL Your problem obviously deals with the fact that you don’t like Joe Lacob, or anyone who writes postive things about the guy or the team he’s put together both on and off the court. That also holds true for some others here, who are usually conspicuous by their absence whenever the Warriors make Lacob look good (Bogut’s return performance vs Toronto). Go to Fast Break or Golden State of Mind and you’ll find all kinds of positive remarks about these last two wins. Here? I guess you could say the silence was deafening.

        Steve | January 8, 2013 at 10:54 pm | Reply

        “…
        Assuming Bogut returns this season his added presence, at ANY degree/percentage of health, will instantly make the Warriors a better team. Any “myth” that attempts to say otherwise is pure nonsense.

        I guess I received Steve’s Wrath because I dared correct you on two errors, which you actually repeated. Seems, I dared correct you on the fact you gave Bogut credit for controlling a game, as he helped the Dubs to 3-2 record. I corrected you that he didn’t even play in one of your wins. I corrected you when he also failed to score in the other one stated Bogut controlled the game (November game against Cleveland where he actually played so poorly he left the team to rehab the very next day).

        Why was I critical of your post of Bogut’s game vs Cleveland, a game you claimed Bogut was a “non-factor”? Pretty simple, you were trying to recall the details of a game you watched take place some two and a half months ago. I compared your “mental notes” to the actual game story that was written within an hour or so after the game ended. These weren’t my words, they were from Rusty Simmons of the Chronicle:

        “By the midway point of the third quarter, center Andrew Bogut had played 17 of his doctor-limited 20 minutes and was done for the night. Jackson had been trying to keep more minutes in reserve for crunch time in the past few outings, but it was difficult to keep Bogut off the floor as he shined early.

        Without scoring a point, Bogut put his imprint all over the first half. He was the anchor that kept the integrity of the defense, making a steal, drawing a charge, blocking a shot and altering a number of others. On offense, he was an initiator, patiently backing down defenders and expertly finding his teammates for easy buckets.

        Led by Bogut, the Warriors’ first quarter was a lovely brand of basketball – the kind with no-superstar, ball-movement fluidity that they had envisioned prior to the season. They had an assist on each of their first seven field goals, including five from Bogut and Lee as the big men drew attention inside and then found open shooters on the perimeter.”

        Gee, sounds a lot like the game vs the Raptors. Yep, non-factor, just like you said. LOL And please spare me the nonsense about the “paid shills from the media” BS. Rusty Simmons was anything but a “paid shill” when he ripped the Warriors for their part in the microfracture surgery episode. Just because Bogut didn’t score, and BTW he only took two shots, doesn’t mean he didn’t contribute to the win that night, which he obviously did. Unless of course I’m suppose to go by what some guy is trying to remember from something that happened months ago vs a beat writer who started typing his story shortly after the game ended.

        I hope Bogut stays healthy, but the double standard you apply between the him and Monta echoes the Lacob media. Just had to note that. Even my casual reading of this blog makes it striking.

        It is ironic Feltbot positions himself as often the only blog/reporter who counters the paid team media with unique reporting, and you merely mimic the reported talking points. That’s okay, just be prepared for disagreement and fact checking to your posts.

        “Who counters the paid team media with unique reporting”

        That’s what’s going on here? LOL OK, have fun reading all of Felt’s “unique reporting”.

        BTW, close your eyes and try and envision the following hypotheticals; Coach Jackson wins Coach of the Year honors for this season, Bob Myers is generally hailed by season’s end as one of the top young GM’s in the NBA, the Warriors are voted most improved team in the league by the national media (if they indeed vote on those kinds of things), the Warriors not only make the playoffs but advance once there, and Joe Lacob (and the Warriors ownership group) is praised (nationally) for their work in rebuilding a franchise that in only three years has gone from a perennial laughing stock to an organization now considered by most as one of the brightest and most promising in the league.

        OK, with all that in mind, now open your eyes and see if you can still find Feltbot’s Blog anywhere on the internet? LOL

        And with that, since I’m sure these exchanges have become boring and way overdone to others, I’m through replying. Yes, by all means, have the last word.

        Oh heck, why not………….MONTA SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How do like them apples, Mr. Warren Davis?!

        • Steve, you posted every one of them!!

          You are officially a nincompoop!

          You pivot more than a ballerina in heat! You sir, are not truthful to put it nicely.

          Nice mea culpa at the end though.

  42. “Person of Interest: Monta Ellis” (Remember this? Posted on Grantland right after the trade)

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7684442/on-monta-ellis-possible-revival-milwaukee-bucks

    • Steve, per your denials, below are just a few recent posts, I got tired of going through the previous posts, I had only ten minutes, so I recalled only five.

      1)
      Steve | January 8, 2013 at 11:07 am | Reply

      “10 Things To Know About: The Warriors”

      They don’t miss Monta Ellis.”

      Perhaps more than any other player, Ellis represents the past of Golden State basketball. The most high-profile of the two holdovers from the We Believe Warriors, Ellis hijacked the team’s identity with his gaudy numbers and flashy performances. But by trading their miniature moped enthusiast before last year’s trade deadline for Bogut, Golden State invested in a future that was un-Ellis-like in virtually every way. It was ball-dominant offense for ball-stopping defense.”

      2) Steve | January 8, 2013

      Even with Bogut unavailable for the bulk of his time since, the addition by subtraction alone was bound to aid the defense,
      but the Warriors also haven’t missed Ellis much on the offensive end, either. While no one Warriors player has the same
      knack for getting to the rim off the bounce, Landry and Lee have provided ample at-the-rim opportunities.

      3) Steve | November 9, 2012 at 6:59 pm |
      moto, unfortunately for any team that employs the services of Monta Ellis,
      you’ll have to wait and hope that some day he comes to the realization that there’s no “I” in “team”……
      For years, NBA types have speculated that Ellis would make a great Sixth Man on a championship contender,
      a potent offensive weapon as a combo guard off some stacked team’s bench. He’s heard it too, and has zero interest in it.

      “Say what now?” Ellis said, unsmiling Thursday when the idea was floated again.
      “I don’t believe that. People are entitled to their own opinion. You put me on a team with a whole bunch of guys,
      I guarantee you that I’m going to win that starting position. No matter who it is.”

      4) Steve | January 10, 2013 at 8:46 am | Reply

      Charley Rosen: The NBA’s most overrated players

      Monta Ellis is another high-volume shooter who can’t differentiate between a good shot and a bad one.
      Also, his assist-to-turnover rate is only marginally acceptable.

      5) “Monta have it all” video comments. And mocking Ellis about the interview comparing himself to Wade.

      Steve, Contrast your above posts with your comments about Bogut (implying the trade was great no matter what).

      Nothing against Bogut, but I mention it because you constantly parrot Fitz, Lacob, MT, and TK…so it is presented as a comparison only. Trashing Ellis while Bogut was injured was a way of justifying the trade. So even though Bogut really is moot, I mention it.

      Steve | January 8, 2013 at 10:54 pm | Reply

      “…
      Assuming Bogut returns this season his added presence, at ANY degree/percentage of health, will instantly make the Warriors a better team. Any “myth” that attempts to say otherwise is pure nonsense.

      Steve, I guess I received your Wrath because I dared correct you on technical points you used to substantiate your points. I dared correct you on the fact you gave Bogut credit for controlling a game, as he helped the Dubs to 3-2 record. I corrected you that he didn’t even play in one of your wins. I corrected you when he also failed to score in a game you posted saying Bogut controlled the game (November game against Cleveland where he actually played so poorly he left the team to rehab the very next day).

      I hope Bogut stays healthy, but the double standard you apply between the him and Monta is striking.

      It is ironic Feltbot positions himself as often the only blog/reporter who counters the paid team media with unique reporting, and you merely mimic the reported talking points. That’s okay, just be prepared for disagreement and fact checking to your posts.

  43. The Warriors looked like a new team last night.

    Virtually all the core players shot better than 50% from the field. He seems to make the offense run even better. And the Warriors recent games deficiency in offensive rebounding was erased last night.

    But,it should be noted that the Raptors were able to shoot their season average FG% against opponents even with Bogut’s four blocks. So, the defense only improved it’s rebounding.

    If the Warriors continue to win games Bogut plays, it will be interesting to see if other Warriors players with positive ratings go-up.

    • Andrew Bogut or Andris Biedrins? Coincidentally two big men with the beginning of the alphabet as their initials.

      Feltbot, how should the Warriors use Festus going forward? Do you see him as a rotation player or a spot player? He did not contribute much offensively, but is nearly a defensive savant. Should he play ahead of Biedrins?

  44. Are the Warriors contenders for the crown? Flip thinks so.

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8893116

  45. The whole W’s “not deep” argument takes a knockout punch upside the head – Marquez-to-Pacman style…

    The W’s “B” team beats the Cavs by 13 points on the road.

    Players Out: PG Curry, SF Barnes, PF Landry, C Bogut, (SG Rush). All legit NBA quality starters.

    Team wins with: PG Jack, SG Thompson, SF Jefferson, PF Lee, and C Biedrins starting – all legit NBA quality starters, with Green, Ezeli, Jenkins, and Basemore coming off the bench.

    And with Basemore’s spirited 30 minutes – the team just got a little deeper…

    RIP – whole W’s “not deep” argument…

    Special kudos to the W’s Front Office.

  46. Klay Thompson shot the lights out and had some nice finishes to the rim.

    How in the world can the W’s re-sign Jarrett Jack next season??? No way he’s traded, right?

    Is it possible and/or likely that the W’s lose Carl Landry next season too??? No way he’s traded, right?

    • PeteyB, take two Librium and call me in the morning. LOL

      As good as JJack has been (on and off the court) I’d be more than surprised if the Warriors don’t re-sign him. They own his Bird Rights for next season at just over $8 million. Jack seems really happy here and GSW is certainly happy with what he’s given the team. Usually in those instances the two parties find a way to get something done. Also, the Warriors will have quite a bit of money coming off the books at the end of next season (Jefferson, Biedrins, Bogut).

      Landry is another matter. He has a player option for next season so what will his strategy be? I don’t view him to be as indispensable as Jack so if the Warriors have to choose between Jack and Landry (if Landry opts out) I think the obvious choice (given those shaky Curry ankles) would be Jack.

      Trades? I think the Warriors just made their big trade yesterday with the return of Bogut. With great chemistry and still solid depth (albeit inexperienced), I’d be surprised to see any trade go down before the deadline. Then again, what do I know, I’m only the trainer. :)

      • Mr. Steve,
        I’m looking at this table from Hoopsworld:

        http://www.hoopsworld.com/golden-state-warriors-team-salary

        From this table, it looks like Jack is an unrestricted FA, no? W’s have Jack’s Bird Rights for $8 million? Does this mean if Jack decides to re-sign here – much his salary may not count against the W’s cap or allow the W’s to go over the cap to re-sign him? I hope so!

        I’m pretty sure Jack/W’s are a happy couple – but I can’t help but think Jack will be offered a starter’s job/money somewhere.

        I was floored this off-season when Landry and Rush – only signed for $4 million per season with a player option for next season… They both seem to be worth more $ in my opinion, but in the old CBA, not this new CBA environment…

        Jack, Landry, and Rush – are all such great guys/people/players. I hope the W’s can keep them as they are easy to root for…

        Then in 2013-2014, decisions need to be made on Bogut, Andris, and Jefferson…

        • “Bird Rights”:

          Perhaps the most well-known of the NBA’s salary cap exceptions, it is so named because the Boston Celtics were the first team permitted to exceed the salary cap to re-sign one of their own players (in that case, Larry Bird). Free agents who qualify for this exception are called “qualifying veteran free agents” or “Bird Free Agents” in the CBA, and this exception falls under the auspices of the Veteran Free Agent exception.

          In a nutshell, the Larry Bird exception allows teams to exceed the salary cap to re-sign their own free agents, at an amount up to the maximum salary. To qualify as a Bird free agent, a player must have played three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent. This means a player can obtain “Bird rights” by playing under three one-year contracts, a single contract of at least three years, or any combination thereof. It also means that when a player is traded, his Bird rights are traded with him, and his new team can use the Bird exception to re-sign him. Bird-exception contracts can be up to six years in length.

          The basic idea is that a player must play for the same team for three seasons for his team to gain Bird rights (two seasons for Early Bird rights). It can be a single three-year contract, a series of three one-year contracts, or any combination that adds up to three seasons (two for Early Bird). However there are a number of complications:

          When a player is traded, his new team inherits his Bird rights. For example, if a player signs a three-year contract, plays two and a half seasons with that team, and is traded at the trade deadline in the third season, then his new team owns full Bird rights following the third season.

          ————————————-

          PeteyB, like I said, I think the Warriors and Jack will find some numbers that keeps everyone happy. The Warriors figure to only get better and be even a bigger threat to play deep into the postseason as we go forward, a fact that will certainly make them an attractive destination for players around the league, Jack included. And GSW needs a really good guard like JJ to backup Curry and his “rolling ankles”, so this is a perfect marriage to hold together. Obviously just a guess, but I think Jack will be here for awhile.

          Landry? Again, does he opt out, and if so how much money is he looking for compared to his current numbers? For me, JJ is the more “attractive” player of the two if monetarily speaking you can only keep one.

          I wouldn’t sweat it. The Bay Area’s sports teams are on a roll, and me thinks that “roll” has only just begun for our Warriors.

        • I feel better now! Jack seems to be the type of impact player that Lacob keeps saying he’ll go over the cap to keep…

          I’m also curious as to what move(s) the W’s make to get under the cap this season, assuming they are slightly over it now to avoid the luxury tax.

    • Jack is extremely unlikely to remain a Warrior after this season. It seems obvious that he will be offered a starting job somewhere. For him to remain a Warrior, you would have to assume

      1) That Joe Lacob, who has never shown any inclination to spend money on players or coaches, will be willing to go over the cap to give starting money to a bench player.

      2) That Jack will be willing to swallow his pride and ambition to remain a bench player on the Warriors. A bench player who, after Rush returns or the Warriors sign a two guard in his place, will receive far fewer minutes than this season.

      I’m not sure which is more unlikely.

  47. “What don’t we know with 40 games to go?”

    How much will Andrew Bogut improve Golden State? Are we talking about a modest bump that offers the Warriors insurance from total defensive meltdowns and occasionally pressures opponents’ backline defense in ways Festus Ezeli can’t? Or will Bogut’s return vault the Warriors’ defense into the ranks of the elite and produce even more good looks along the arc for Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson while also giving the W’s a high-low game with Lee (which we saw a glimpse of Monday night in Toronto)? If it’s the latter, the West might have just bred another dark horse.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/54025/what-dont-we-know-with-40-games-to-go

  48. TrueHoop TV: Eddie Huang (Talks about Run TMC)

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8894949

  49. 5-on-5: Top NBA point guard superlatives

    2. Which NBA point guard is the best shooter?

    Arnovitz: Nash might go down as the best shooter in the game’s history. He’s a smidgen away from being a 50-40-90 career shooter. What’s interesting about Nash is that while his form is hitch-free, his shot isn’t among the most aesthetically pleasing in the game. Stephen Curry has a prettier stroke and so long as he can stay healthy, he should vault over Nash fairly soon.

    Foster: Stephen Curry. High-volume shooting and efficiency aren’t supposed to go together, but Curry’s percentages from behind the arc have only increased as he’s attempted more shots. It doesn’t even seem to matter whether he’s shooting off his own dribble or spotting up — he’s an elite shooter in virtually any setting.

    Hopkins: Steve Nash still has the highest “true shooting percentage” among point guards in the league (.617). This season, he’s shooting .420 from the 3-point line and .970 from the free throw line. Nash may be the greatest point guard shooter in the history of the game. And even though his points per game have dropped, that shot is as reliable as ever.

    Koremenos: Steve Nash. As a player synonymous with the 50-40-90 club, Nash isn’t just the best shooting point guard, but perhaps one of the greatest shooters of all time.

    Schmidt: History says Steve Nash, but when you look at volume, it’s hard to give him the nod over Stephen Curry this season. Curry is relentless on offense and fearless on pulling up from three. Unlike so many other players with those qualities though, he’s hitting 45 percent of his shots from behind the arc.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-130129/nba-best-passer-shooter-defender-point-guard

    • Stephen Curry was shooting the lights out upon entering the league. Unbelievable numbers… It took Steve Nash years to get his percentages this good…

      Stephen Curry will likely shatter all 3-point shooting records in the history of the game…

      The so called “experts” should catch up on this in due time.

      Anyone who names Nash or Allen as THE best three point shooters in the game – they are very good – are living in the past and not watching Stephen Curry play…

      http://www.hoopsworld.com/three-point-shootout-deserves-star-power/

  50. “Finding the next All Star from 2011 class”

    Klay Thompson, Warriors (No. 11):

    Thompson entered the NBA gunning and he hasn’t stopped since. His 40.7 shooting percentage this season leaves much to be desired, but his smooth stroke, deep range (38.1 percent on 7.1 three-point attempts) and comfort level with all types of shots suggest the potential to become a 20-point scorer, and volume scoring can be one of the surest paths to All-Star status. That he’s already an every-night starter putting up numbers — 16.1 points, four rebounds and 2.5 assists — for a playoff-bound team sets him apart from most of the rest of this class, Irving included.

    Golden State’s pecking order could be a limiting factor for Thompson in the short term. The Warriors’ two All-Star candidates this year — David Lee and Stephen Curry — both take at least 15 shots per game and are signed long term, and while coach Mark Jackson has done a masterful job of keeping everyone happy and productive, Thompson’s shooting appetite has been satiated in part because of the absences of Andrew Bogut and Brandon Rush. It’s not unthinkable that a team trades for Thompson in a few years with the idea of utilizing him as a No. 1 option, much like the Rockets did with James Harden this season. Harden, of course, wasted no time in making his first All-Star team.

    http://nba.si.com/2013/01/29/all-star-game-2011-draft-kyrie-irving-kenneth-faried/?sct=uk_t12_a5

  51. The future:

    The Warriors’ salary total next year will be $75.8 million next year (I’m not clear what the cap is).

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/golden-state-warriors-team-salary

    That doesn’t include, of course, Jack, and there’s little fudge, only about $2.8m for Tyler, Bazemore, and Jenkins.

    Now look at Portland next year, $47.4 million:

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/golden-state-warriors-team-salary

    They keep their very solid core intact, with good players at key positions, save Hickson, and have all kinds of money to build. (Hickson isn’t included, and they’re paying off about $16m for Roy, who was amnestied).

    Portland beat Dallas last night, btw, 26 points, 15 boards for Hickson.

    Who has a better future?

    • Agreed – Portland is in a great cap position now and in the future. A nice core of young star players. Lillard, Matthews, Batum, and Aldridge (maybe Leonard). But not much else.

      But that’s it… Leonard a decent prospect on a cheap rookie deal. Hickson’s due a big raise if he stays and plays out of position and I’m not so sure he’s worth a ton of money – and if not paid, he can leave. Freeland – I’m not familiar with him but his numbers look horrible. Jeffries? No…

      Who has a better future?

      Short-term definitely Golden State.

      Long-term – Golden State. Stars Curry and Lee – are locked up in long-term deals. Klay, Harrison, Ezeli, Green, Basemore, Tyler, Jenkins – are all locked into cheaper, rookie contracts. Bogut until 2014. Aside from the 2013-2014 season cap situation where a couple players may leave (likely Landry, maybe Jack). Biedrins/Jefferson – huge expirings after 2014 to re-sign Bogut.

      Portland’s great potential? Sure. But no one knows yet what Portland does with the cap money… Let’s not forget this is the same Front Office that offered Max money to Roy Hibbert (As did W’s with DeAndre)… Luckily, the Portland Trail Blazers didn’t actually land the max deal they actually offered to Roy Hibbert in the off-season, but matched by Indiana… $14 million for the now underperforming Hibbert? WOW! VERY LUCKY Indiana matched!!! Amazing how this one player – Hibbert – could have moved the franchise near the cap for little improvement…

      • I think I’ll take Curry, Klay, Barnes, Lee, and Bogut. First team.

        over Lillard, Matthews, Batum, Aldridge, and Hickson.

        And Jack, Rush, Jefferson, Landry, and Ezeli. Second team.

        over Price, Barton, Babbitt, Jeffries, Leonard

        And Jenkins, Basemore, Green, Tyler, and Biedrins. Third team.

        over Nolan Smith, Sasha Pavlovic, Victor Claver, Joel Freeland

    • If the Warriors are just over the cap now, they’ll be well over the cap next year—without Jack (Curry’s new salary kicks in, and I assume everyone will exercise their option, other salaries are going up, etc.). I don’t see how the team can keep Jack, nor how they can get better next year. They will, in fact, be worse.

      • You’re likely right about Jarrett Jack getting paid elsewhere… he’s been phenominal this season for sure!

        Good news – Next season, Andris’ and/or Jefferson’s expiring contracts will finally be a tradable asset and could be moved to rebuilding teams for players.

        Also – this team is so young – with 3 rookies last season and 4 rookies this season along with a newer coach and newly added players – that keeping them together to grow together should yield better on-court results… I mean, Pops, Duncan, Parker, Manu, Spurs role players – have been together for so many seasons which has helped make their team’s play so consistent…

        • I have limited knowledge here and it’s not my idea of a good time, but I wonder if picking up expiring contracts will be a thing of the past under the new cap laws. AB’s $9m and Jefferson’s $11m is a lot of money to swallow. Hard to see any team being excited about either one.

          Jefferson shows moments that he really is a pro, but only moments. I was really hoping to see him step up against Cleveland. He didn’t.

  52. PeteyBrian: Feltbot claim that the Warriors lack depth is accurate when read in the context that Bogut, Bazemore, R. Jefferson, and Jenkins, were not receiving court time.

    Based on last night’s performance and his time playing in D-league, Bazemore warrants substantial playing time. He may well turn out to be a major contributor the rest of the season as his quickness on defense is off the charts.

    Jenkins seems destined to someday be a starting PG in the NBA. His ability to find the open man, penetrate the paint with ease, hts the open two, and make steals, are all above average. His multiple moves in the paint last night on one play was a thing of beauty. To bad, he has had to languish behind Curry and Jack.

    With the return of Bogut and based on Bazemore’s performance last night, if the team can remain healthy, the Warriors are positioned to skyrocket to the top of the Western conference.

    The depth in their roster, and defense and offensive sets are so good, that they are now a difficult team to beat and should go far in the play-offs.

    • Frank,
      Let’s not forget…

      Richard Jefferson was STARTING for the San Antonio Spurs last season (2011/2012) – a 50-win team. A savy veteran who plays solid defense and is a nice scorer. Kawhi’s development and Jefferson’s big contract – sent him and Ezeli to us…

      People who are now pleasantly surprised at Basemore’s play – didn’t watch ANY of the W’s Summer League… I think he had 9 steals in one game!!!! I’ve only watch that domination in CYO games… LOL! Very nice potential/Great find. Kudos to the W’s Front Office here.

      Jenkins started half of last season for the W’s – he’s a combo guard who’s got a great mid-range shooter. I’m not sold on Jenkins – the point guard as this is the weakness in his game IMHO. Jenkins is a great kid.

      • with luck, jenkins can find success elsewhere like other talented but incomplete guards like c.j.watson and morrow. in very limited minutes, bazemore has shown promising signs that he could become and impact reserve, rather than a ‘try to keep things from complete disaster while providing relief minutes’ back up.

  53. Steve, you should change your name to Sean Hannity or one of the other paid liars on Fox News.

    Here are your oft used tactics:

    1) State your desired talking point no matter how foolish as long as it feeds your mental narrative, be sure not to substantiate just attack.

    2) Write as many false hoods, if someone disagrees move quickly to another talking point.

    3) If 2) fails, shout the person down

    4) If 3) fails call them a liar, especially if they point out your falsehoods. As long as you believe your crud, nothing else matters. Remember, you live in opposite world.

    5) Repeat as needed and always “throw more yogurt to the fan”. Never fail to generate endless irrelevant posts to obfuscate your incessant and dis proven or contradicted talking points. Make sure you have surrogates call you ‘genius’ and what a great guy you are.

  54. (Phew!)

    Can we get a cleanup on aisle 6?

    Hey, Feltbot. How about another post?

    • Yeah, Feltbot, me too, only I’m in aisle 9. I know, The Andrew Bogut myth. Perfect time!

      • Ummm. Uh. Steve. . . .

        • rgg, stay out of this, you were in aisle 6 and didn’t see what happened. Yeah, I knocked over the display but some idiot pushed me from behind trying to get to the chunky salsa that was on sale.

          BTW, Portland or GSW, better future? Warriors

          rgg | January 30, 2013 at 6:22 pm | Reply

          If the Warriors are just over the cap now, they’ll be well over the cap next year—without Jack (Curry’s new salary kicks in, and I assume everyone will exercise their option, other salaries are going up, etc.). I don’t see how the team can keep Jack, nor how they can get better next year. They will, in fact, be worse.

          rgg, you tried to say the same thing last year…….and then the Warriors traded for Jack, signed Landry, re-signed Rush, not to mention finding Bazemore in Summer League play and adding him to the roster. Hint: Really good management will always find a way to get better.

          • W.D.’s post @68, newly edited, is excellent analysis. Feltbot’s advice @70 is also thoughtful, i.e., just reference posts.

            And please don’t reply to this comment. The discussion is stupid and
            NO
            ONE
            CARES.

          • “And please don’t reply to this comment. The discussion is stupid and
            NO
            ONE
            CARES.”

            You mean your endless attempts (discussion) to compare what the Warriors are doing with their roster vs other teams around the league? It’s strange how the other teams are always portrayed in your eyes as being the better run teams yet the Warriors keep getting better and better, both on and off the court.

            You’re right, “stupid” and “NO ONE CARES” hit the nail right on the head.

  55. Steve and WD: Please stop regurgitating all over my blog.

    I have deleted that last 1000 or so lines of WD’s last post, as it appeared to be simply a cut and paste of several other posts. This is not something I would like to have to do on a repeated basis, and will consider blocking those who can’t restrain themselves from this behaviour.

    There is no need to quote your adversary at page length, when a simple “@” will clue your readers into which post you are responding to. If your post is sufficiently interesting to make your readers want to see what exactly you’re responding to, they are all intelligent enough to look it up themselves.

    Please show some respect to other posters and the blog itself, by using this means to restrict the length of your posts to something somebody might actually want to read.

    • Warren Davis, now look what you went and done did. Dr. Feltenstein had to make a night house call to surgically deal with a case of chronic regurgitating. Yuck.

      • One last point, Steve, and I’m going to put this to rest. I came to this blog because the analysis was superior to anything I saw elsewhere. Feltbot puts considerable thought and time into what he says. I’m still a novice, but I have learned more about the team and the game here than I have elsewhere.

        Your constant snipes against his posts are tedious. It’s never apparent you understand what he says, or even try. I would say you are being rude, not just to Feltbot but to other readers, but I don’t think that would have any effect on you. Rather, I’ll put it this way: you are being a complete ass.

        Don’t disillusion yourself on this point: you are being indulged.

    • I could have done the same to you @51 Steve. And your posts @69 indicate you’re not getting the message. There is no need for repetitive quotation. Please help keep this a blog where visitors can easily read and enjoy the posts.

  56. Brytex, and any other readers who’ve enjoyed reading the text and watching the videos that I’ve linked in the past, I highly recommend going to Golden State of Mind http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/ to keep up with the latest news and stories on the Warriors, especially on game days/nights. The moderator there does a great job posting a lot of the same links and audio/video that I’ve brought over here. You’ll be kept up to speed, and then some. Also, I’m sure lots of you read Adam Lauridsen’s Fast Break blog, but if not check it out over on the mercurynews.com site. The guy does a pretty good job talking all things Warriors and lots of posts each day from many passionate fans of GSW to peruse. You’ll probably even find a post or two of mine over there in the future.

    Yes, in case you haven’t already suspected by that lead-in paragraph, I’m outta here for good. Why? Lots of reasons, but more than anything it’s simply because I’ve let this blog eat up too many hours of my days over the many weeks and months since I first started posting here. Time to move on.

    Thanks so much for the kind words from posters such as Brytex, Our Team, and Andria. Much appreciated.

    I think the Warriors are going to accomplish great things in the future. I’ve never been more excited about this team and it’s management in all my 40+ years of being a fan. Go Warriors! :)

    • Taking your talents to South Beach?

      Wherever it is you land, Steve, good luck and have fun.

      • FB – nice touch adding a gracious good-bye for Steve and never responding to the personal swipes from Steve, except for that one -“What’s up?”. Steve put alot of effort into this blog and the bus went off the road a little while ago. Warren Davis – wherever you are – mission accomplished??

        Steve – thanks for all your work.

        If you all remember Steve stayed away from this blog after a similar pronouncement during the late summer. It took maybe a week or two before his return. I know one thing for certain – Steve has to return to this blog because he is personally dying to see that “Bogut Myth” entry!!!!!!

  57. Pretty amazing story that the Grizzlies dumped Rudy Gay mid-season. Whatever you read, this is not just about money. Gay is a horribly inefficient player, on both ends of the court. I view him as a cancer. Not because of his locker room presence, which I know nothing about. But because of his effect on his team on the court.

    What is really behind this trade is this: there is an increasing recognition in the league of the importance of shooting three point shots, as opposed to long twos. (Something Don Nelson understood decades ago.) And Memphis, with their two dominant big men, has always had a problem spreading the court around them.

    And getting them the ball. Gay certainly didn’t want to do it.

    Tayshaun Prince is the perfect fit for the Grizzlies. A fantastic three point shooter (Gay was horrible), particularly from the corners, with the length to get it off in the playoffs. An unselfish point-forward, who will be adept at feeding Randolph and Gasol in the post. A great defender. A proven playoff performer.

    A huge upgrade. At a cheaper price.

    Throw in the up and coming Ed Davis, and I feel like the Grizzlies have pulled off one of the smartest deals I’ve ever seen. A deal that could help them contend. I’m looking forward to watching this team play now, with Prince and Leuer spreading the floor for their bigs.

    As for the Raptors, what were they thinking? They’ve wasted one of their huge trade assets, Calderon, to press an utterly mediocre roster right up against the cap. For more on this, here’s a link:

    http://nba.si.com/2013/01/31/rudy-gay-deal-perpetuates-raptors-haphazard-roster-construction/

    • Totally agree on Prince over Gay. I think Prince is one of the most underrated players in the league. Not as explosive or athletic as Gay, but more skilled, more professional, and a team player. An excellent get for Memphis.

      I also don’t understand Toronto letting Davis go. He should help the Grizz too.

      Overall, a big Ouch for the Warriors. The Grizzlies just got tougher while our team stands pat with a lot of busted-up personnel.

      • Hatty,
        They may have gotten better, but I’m not sure that Memphis matches up better with the Warriors, tho. Gay, although he didn’t play particularly well against the W’s earlier in the season, presented match-up problems (except when Green was on the court) and he was the one Grizzly who could get hot and hit clutch shots. Prince and Conley will be the players taking these shots now, and neither is as dynamic as Gay getting shots off under pressure. I suspect Gay’s trade means more shots for Gasol, however, they may have a void in pressure situations. I am VERY curious to see how this plays out. I don’t see it changes the Warriors fortunes until these teams meet in the playoffs. I suspect the move was made to match up better with the Spurs.

        • Peteb24, you could be right. Prince is a really solid player, but doesn’t have a reputation as a “go-to” guy. Gay has never been afraid to take the big shot.

  58. Apologies for the slowness in getting up my next post. The big topic is obviously Bogut, and I’d like to take in a few games to get some legitimate impressions before commenting.

    Going to tonight’s game, which always makes it tough to post afterwards, due to, ahem, festivities. So my next post probably won’t be until Sunday or Monday.

    If I have any remaining readers, til then.

    • Feltie, some of us were getting sick of all the bullshit. It’s not as much fun commenting when someone is trying to police every thought. And going about it stupidly.

      Now that that problem is gone, things should actually pick up.

      BTW, I’m with Buckaroo – congratulations on keeping your cool. Huzzah, dude!

    • Thanks for the forum Felt — I enjoy the banter until it gets 4 miles long like has the past couple of posts. Also, it takes too long to load on my smartphone. Keep up the good work.

      For the Warriors sake I’m hoping the Andrew Bogut Myth post stays on the drawing board because Bogut proves that he is healthy and that he complements Curry, Thompson and Lee. Game 1 was encouraging — tonight could easily be a step back.

      At some point, I’d like to hear you weigh in on Mark Jackson’s use of his players, in terms of his rotations, play calls and end game situations. Obviously Curry and Lee are playing a lot of minutes, but there is more to the story and I would love to hear what you think of how he’s managed the season so far.

      • FB – I think your Rudy Gay comment above – is almost good enough to serve as a stand alone and new post (review of the trade). New posts are always welcome!

  59. Posted on January 14, 2013

    Still to Come: There remains one more myth about this Warriors season for me to discuss. It’s the biggest myth of all, one requiring a post all to itself.

    Coming soon.

    The Andrew Bogut Myth.

    Now instead of immediately exposing this “biggest myth of all”, you want to “take in a few games to get some legitimate impressions before commenting”? So, your Bogut impressions weren’t legitimate before??

    Gotta believe that was one of your “oops” moments, felt. And it’s a biggie. But that’s okay, we all have them. I have many.

    • It will be “Bogut – the man, the myth, the legend!” This title or Bogut’s next big injury – whatever comes first! Lol!

      Bogut’s defense helped win the W’s the game at the end! Blocking Brandan’s shot – and possibly Vince Carter on the inbounds!!!

  60. Klay really gets a lot of looks without Curry…

  61. Sir Charles labels this W’s team – a jump shooting team. He’s got a great point here… Need more players like Jefferson and Barnes slashing and attacking the rim.

  62. Interesting that alot of nba people are calling the gay trade as bad for memphis. Feltbot is out there on this prediction and it will be fun to follow. Jefferson is starting to make an impact. He has rounded into shape and was rusty at the beginning of the season.
    Wasn’t it ironic to see Brandon Wright with the throwdown on Bogut. I seem to remember FB calling BW the ragdoll on the AL blog and predicting he would never be a serviceable NBA player. Wright had a horrible jump shot from about 10 feet late in the 4th. Bogut was just moving BW right out of the lane. So BW is getting 16 min per game with Nowitski out… He does not look much improved since his warrior days. Remember all the guys on AL blog complaining that Nelson couldn’t develop rookie big men… POB, BW and of course AR. At the same time Nellie used Chris Wright and Tolliver to great effect.

  63. Dallas:

    OK, only Bogut’s second game back, but that was kind of not impressive. No Nowitzki, no Kaman—this should have been an easier win.

    Not much ball movement last quarter, not much pushing the pace, not many fast break points. One myth I hope is dispelled is that they can win without Curry, that they can have Jack lead them with traditional post-up/bigs front court play.

    Why didn’t Ezeli play? I doubt they’re showcasing Biedrins for a possible trade.

    I got pulled away several times. Did Landry have an injury or did he just not play down the stretch?

    We got stuck with Webber and Albert—sorry we didn’t get Steve Kerr.

    The half time TNT crew, who used to ridicule the Warriors, sounded like they were reading from a script. Barnes the next rising star, the Warriors a western powerhouse, etc.

    Odd night.

  64. 17 Dallas fast break points, 7 for the Warriors. Did the Ws miss Curry? Uh huh. And not just for his scoring. Jack gets lots of assists, but Curry initiates and leads more fast breaks.

    Lee and Jack both 42 minutes, Barnes 39 minutes. Jefferson 11, Green 15, Bazemore and Jenkins 3 each. In the short term, the Ws DID win the game. In the long term, 40 minutes per game for starters is unsustainable. And they can’t develop team depth if subs don’t get playing time.

    David Lee 20 rebounds! 7 offensive! Holy cow! Even if Bogut isn’t back 100% (he’s not – there’s no spring in his step, no elevation in his jump), just having Bogut on the floor (parked in the corner on O when Lee has the ball) seems to make it easier for Lee to work.

    Draymond Green 5 rebounds, 1-4 from the 3-pt line, 3 TOs in 15 minutes (bad passes). His shooting and passing may improve with more PT, but right now he plays more like a hyperactive 4 than a 3.

    Thompson’s D seems much improved even over the beginning of the season, but he still lets OJ Mayo look like a superstar. And vice versa. A great offensive game from Thompson last night, but let’s hope he can keep improving on D. It’s all about point differential.

    Overall, a tough, gutty win against a good team, and any win outweighs all the quibbles. Add Curry and Nowitzki to the game, and who knows? Dallas is no pushover.

    • the uptempo-full court game is one of jack’s weaker areas, and among the reasons that robinson is a better reserve guard than jenkins for a team with playoff aspirations. he’s being used effectively in Chi and might get further into the postseason than the lacobites.

      after the season’s opening weeks when he received only tiny rations of play, green’s minutes are now eighth on the team, nearly the equal of ezeli’s, and with bogut emerging from rehab, he’ll probably soon pass the rookie center. jefferson’s rebirth and the favoured status of both thompson and barnes will mean that green will play the bulk of his minutes at the 4 as one of lee’s back ups. he’ll probably get assignments at the 3 when the preacher wants an opposing wing closely shadowed and kept off the boards, like james. the reserve unit that opened the fourth quarter vs. Dal 11-0 played a front line of landry, green, jefferson, and many of the combinations he appears with have neither center nor lee on the court.

  65. Bogut, of course, is better than many centers and we need the size, but I have trouble seeing him as a savior. And if the team moves to half court control offense, running much of it through Bogut, I’m not confident at all. Last night several plays were run through him low post, and he was easily covered by a center challenged Dallas. It slows the offense and doesn’t give him good looks at open players.

    Hopefully, this isn’t the plan.

    Watching the abandon with which he plays, I see how he gets injured. When he hit the floor (did BWright get a point for the takedown?), my first though was oh no, elbow.

    I’m not going to complain about any win, however.

    • wut kahnd uv a mayan would wear a hat like...

      Bogut looked less than 100% last night, which we’d have to expect. A good guy to have playing, but not a game changer. That will hopefully change, but who knows?

      And who knows when? From everything I’ve read about his surgery, he’s most likely to face swelling and pain for at least the rest of the season. It’s hard to believe it’s a non-issue for him. Grant Hill, the only other NBA player I know who had microfracture surgery on his ankle, took years to get pain free – and changed his game quite a bit to accommodate his post-surgical ankle.

      Longer term, if Bogut can recover without problems and return to somewhere near his earlier form, I don’t know that he would slow down the offense. He was a highly mobile, active center before his injury, not just a post-up dinosaur.

      There’s still hope, rgg.

  66. Except for his three blocks, one at the crucial end of the game. once again, Bogut was a non-factor on defense, as Dallas shot close to their season field goal average. I doubt that he will effect the shooting % of opponents. The Warriors would have faired better with his playing less minutes. It seemed like Dallas over and over again penetrated the paint and scored easily inside.

    Bogut on an already good team, is an upgrade at the center position, but is not a “transformational”player as advertised by the owner.
    That is the Bogut myth.

    Bogut should help by reducing the number of offensive rebounds by Warrior opponents and therefore deny opponents extra possessions. This has been a major problem for the Warriors in recent games played. Hopefully, Bogut will provide some offense at the center position, but only if he can consistently shoot 50% from the field.

    The Warriors won by three points by garnering three additional possessions and by converting a higher percentage at the foul-line.

    • If Bogut’s not a “game-changer”, then how did he change the outcome of the game??? LOL!

      Bogut sealed this victory on the last two plays of the game. With his defense. Not only the CRUCIAL block on Brandan Wright (No foul), but on the game-ending inbounds play and blocking/altering Vince Carter’s last second heave without fouling (which Carter has made on the W’s in the past).

      This in Bogut’s FIRST game back!

      Man up and step up and give credit where it’s due. Or you’ll end up like those guys who said Curry and Thompson – couldn’t shoot early on when they were rookies…

      Bogut made two beautiful lead passes to David Lee and Jarrett Jack (which he didn’t finish) are what Bogut does well… This is why I watch the game. Beautiful basketball.

      Two great passing big men in Lee/Bogut who have high Basketball IQ’s, can rebound, can handle, and are willing/talented passers. One an elite defender, one more talented on offense.

      Coupled with the W’s perimeter shooters…

      • Um, he blocked Brandon Wright. But you’re right, it’s early.

        I’d much rather see offense run through Lee than Bogut, maybe with Bogut on occasion to mix things up.

  67. The Warriors won last night with Barnes playing 39 minutes, but one has to question whether the Warriors would be better off given some of his minutes to Landry who played only 19 minutes ,and whether some of D. Green’s 15 minutes should have been played by Landry.

    • I’d like Richard Jefferson to play more… Did you see that thundering reverse dunk? I thought he was wearing a NJ Nets jersey!!! If the W’s can get a little of his defense, 40% 3pt shooting, and attacking the basket… He can’t be kept on the bench!

    • Landry and Barnes play different positions; they aren’t usually interchangeable. Also, Dallas went small, a lot, dictating some smaller match-ups. And lastly, Bogut’s return undoubtedly will eat into some of Landry’s time although I hope it cuts down some of Lee’s minutes just to keep him fresh and able to contribute on both ends of the floor.

  68. In the previous win over Dallas:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=Ak5JQbrYChs2bBIWWV9CfKOkvLYF?gid=2012111906

    with Curry and Kaman, Ezeli scored 9 points and had 8 boards and 1 block. Lee, btw had 19 boards. I’m not saying Ezeli is a better center, but how much more does the team gain with Bogut?

    • Offense. Bogut’s a nice offensive player. Ezeli’s not. That’s the major difference. Both are great defenders – but edge to Bogut.

      If Ezeli scored nine points, then the opposing team wasn’t guarding him. Or made the offensive glass. Ezeli avgs 2.7 points in 16 minutes. Is a turnover waiting to happen on any ballhandling/decision making situations with the ball. Set screens, catch the ball, and dunk. Don’t pass him the ball until then. That’s it.

      Defensively, Bogut also gets excellent position – has led the NBA in drawing offensive fouls several times – which is a skill.

      • PeteyBrian is laying down the law people…! Taking over where LinkMaster Steve left off.

        • I always assumed PB was another name for Steve, they always converse and agree with each other. How rare is that?

          • Funny! I first sparred with Steve over Mullin’s HOF worthiness on another site, where I didn’t like him much! But his arguments were always intelligent, thoughtful, and respectful – and he knows and loves his sports! So I always read Steve’s comments and click on his links!

  69. Correction: Dallas obtained 10 of their 12 offensive rebounds during Bogu’s 25 minutes on the court. So there is nothing to show that he can keep the opponents off the offensive glass as other Warriors defenders did last night.

    I actually think the Warriors played better in most games the last 10 or so games, with Biedrins on the court, rather than Ezeli.

    Jackson should have played Basemore more last night. Jackson is not only stunting his development, but also the Warrior being a stronger team in the playoffs.

    • FeltbotsFakeGirlfriend

      Only a moron would base the ability of someone off the offensive glass off 1 game.

      • I think you have to prove yourself not be be a moron to call someone else a moron, which hasn’t happened yet.

        But name calling is just friggin stupid.

        Feltbot, I vote you pull that comment—and mine here.

  70. And by the way…

    Steve, thanks for all your links, and all your posts. I always appreciated the logic, balance and reasonableness you brought to this blog. You’ll be missed. But maybe not for too long. I may be following your lead after the All-Star break.

    Long live the LinkMaster! Long live Curry’s ankle!! Long live Dorell Wright in the photo montage at the top of this page!!!

    • Steve’s THE MAN! I hope he takes a break, then comes back though! Every now and then, arguments get a little personal – but that’s on every blog.

      • Brytex and PeteyB, you two guys are great. Thanks.

        Hey, just because I decided to vacate the premises doesn’t mean I’ve stopped surfing the net looking for good NBA reading material, and Felt’s blog still qualifies, IMO.

        Brytex, I’m posting over at Adam’s site (Fast Break). In fact, just posted three good reads you’d probably enjoy. Come on over and say hi every once in awhile. PeteyB posts there. In fact, I think Petey posts everywhere from what I can tell. :)

        While I’m here I’d like to apologize to all the regulars for admittedly taking my antagonistic style too far at times. Hopefully the “new atmosphere” here will allow you guys to more fully enjoy what Felt has to say as well as your comments to each other.

        Felt and I differ in our opinions when it comes to the Warriors but I still enjoy reading what he has to say, as was the case when I first discovered his blog seemingly many years ago (time goes by so fast I can’t remember how long it’s been).

        Felt, best of luck in your future endeavors. And yes, I will make sure I catch your thoughts on the big Aussie. :)

        Ciao

        • nicely put, Steve. I think PB above nailed the Bogut myth. Not a transformational player. Although we have to remember how bad Jefferson looked at the beginning of the season and now he is looking alot better. Bogut will definitely improve with some more games under his belt.

  71. I think it’s possible, but might be still early to make a sure decision over the whole Bogut thing.
    For one, he looked not too good in all of his games except the toronto one.
    For two, in the toronto game he looked very good.
    Now the dallas game was tricky for dallas had no centers, so he was left guarding quickness or trying to anchor the zone – and we all know that the zone gives a lot of offensive rebounds for attacking team.
    He still managed to get some stops.
    He had two great passes – one finished by Lee another missed by Jack. In this way, he can be used in high post as well as Lee can be, who absent curry, was doing that a lot in the games.
    Two quick cents on Bogut matter.
    If he becomes the toronto one with better conditioning I see only positives he can and will bring, if his injuries will prevent him to play to his strengths he might be liebility against quick teams as dallas.

    • hunka hunka burnin' hat

      +1, Martin.

      Bogut doesn’t seem to have recovered his old form physically yet, and it has an impact on his game. Compared to the younger Bogut he’s low and slow. That doesn’t affect his smarts and skills. He’s still extremely large, and he knows how to use his size. And he has really good court vision. He’s a gamer.

      But especially being somewhat hobbled, he’s not “The Answer” in every situation against every opponent. Many of the best teams in the league play a lot of “center-less” ball. Facing a small-ball attack, the Ws might do better to go small. It’s worked pretty well for them so far.

    • He’ll go up against another big tonight—Gortat, who grew up in a family of boxers. Fight Night? We got WWW against Dallas.

    • ‘t’was fairly predictable that bogut would not be at his best vs. Dal without curry as an ideal facilitator and passing target, against coach carlisle who knows every tactic to throw against a rusty big.

      the essential qualities the aussie has shown without qualifiers/modifiers are great hands and high hoops i.q. on both ends. he and curry are at the top in both categories. he knew where his ‘mates would be on offense from watching closely from the bench and in practices, something few players could match. he has few(possibly Ø) peers in the league as a defensive center because he uses his brain and vision more than pogo jumping ability or great quickness — his limitations in the latter physical attributes might give one or two others the edge.[howard no longer in the conversation, post spinal surgery ; his recurring shoulder woes might be related to a loss of thoracic flexibiilty].

  72. Prefatory remarks to tomorrow’s game (and an upcoming post):

    I never thought the Giants would ever make the World Series, or that the 49s would return to the Superbowl. Part of the reasons for success in both cases are increasing parity in both sports and the transformations in both games.

    In local basketball, however, we’re getting excited about a team that by the most optimistic account is the 5th or 6th best in the league, worth maybe a round or two in the playoffs, and that assumes full health. The prospects for getting better in the near future are not great. Warriors fans have every reason to be critical and not settle for fifth best.

    It is the context for discussions here the past years and a post coming up, and this blog is the only place I know such criticism is raised.

    And look at how much the NBA has changed. I don’t think any team is a lock, and the hegemony of the top four teams has fallen. The teams that gutted themselves for superstar hires got stuck—and the team that won the Howard prize is stumbling like a drunk. Other teams are scrambling and rebuilding. The field is wide open. Few (any?) super talents are on the horizon. A single injury has pushed some teams out of contention. How well poised are the Warriors to take advantage and remain competitive?

    It starts with the owner. I always thought Eddie Debartolo was a free wheeling idiot—he sure acted like one—but he got lucky with a hire—a Stanford coach! And that coach understood the game and knew how to find talent and hire good people. York, of course, is now a genius: he hired Harbaugh. Lacob’s success will depend on how well he can put up the money like Debartolo and place the team in better minds. We’re still waiting on the returns on the present coaching staff.

    Football has changed, and Harbaugh has been at the forefront of recognizing the changes and responding. The NBA has changed. Teams are unloading unwieldy contracts and trying to manage their caps more sanely to allow development. The game has moved from superstar isolation play to teamwork, and rosters are leaner and faster—and shorter. Skills and strategy matter. All of which has been documented in this blog, and the question is whether the Warrior FO can keep up with the changes.

    I have no idea what will happen tomorrow, btw, and don’t trust any prediction. Every scenario is creditable, from routs on either side to a close, low or high scoring game. There’s a point in that, too. How well can the Warriors manage uncertainty and work probabilities? Do they have the personnel for the task?

    • 4 rookies, 3 2nd year players – our young players will improve their games incrementally in time.

      Mark Jackson – our first full year head coach who many called for his firing and now a leading Coach of the Year candidate – will only get better.

      Bogut, Landry, Jefferson, and Jack and others – haven’t played together long. These players need time to jell together as a team for more than 1 season – it took Miami 2 years to win with all their Superstars and vet minimum stars.

      Lastly, the W’s Front Office can improve the team through trades. The hard part is done – getting the ship turned around – acquiring the talent, healthy, and making GSW’s a desired place to play… People who are still clinging onto Monta Ellis or Dorrell Wright taking us to the playoffs… In Jerry West I Trust!!!

      Basemore’s discovery and development could equate to adding a first round talent – like our beloved Mario Ellie or Kelena Azibuke. Or not… No doubt he looks like a useful rotation player to me already.

  73. Last night the Lakers built up a 25 point lead over Phoenix with incredible shooting, then, second half, couldn’t move the ball around and score and almost lost. The Warriors looked like a fine-tuned racing machine second half and left Phoenix in their dust.

    What a sharp game by Curry.

    Kudos to Barnes for finding openings in a pretty porous defense.

    Though I’m tempted to have the Warriors give the game ball to Beasley. He got his points, but by chucking the ball up took the rest of the team out of a a rhythm, and they have capable scorers who were doing well.

    I’ll leave Bogut to someone else.

    • Agreed – Kudos to Barnes – if he can play aggressively like a young Richard Jefferson, this team will soar like a falcon – take another step up. He attacked the rim, the boards with aggression. He’s got to be consistently aggressive regardless of the matchup and the opposition. So far, the W’s have done well – without much consistency from Harrison Barnes… With him, another weapon for Mark Jackson.

      No one on this W’s team can do what Harrison can do – that is slash/drive to the basket and finish for easy buckets and ones. Jefferson’s still got a little in the tank but his best days are behind him. Jefferson used to be this kind of player.

      I just want to see him do this consistently. Against good teams.

  74. It occurred to me last night that I haven’t seen Bogut play that much at all, other than a handful of games this season. I also wondered how much other fans, so high on him, have seen him.

    But there haven’t been many chances. The past three years, Milwaukee isn’t often featured on the other networks and he didn’t suit up for the playoffs 2010. I have only seen him in three Warriors games, twice in the injury racked season 2009-10, against Mikki Moore and Biedrins, and once the following season against Gadzuric—all close games.

    OK, he’s not in shape yet, but he didn’t look that dominant or quick on either end last night. Yes, he got some blocks and boards, but Scola fronted him fairly well on offense and others, smaller, could move on him.

    OK, he hasn’t played with the others much yet, and he did get some assists and made that drive off the Curry pass, but the offense definitely stalled first half. Running the offense through him slows it, and he didn’t react that quickly. Also, when he posts low and gets the ball, he is covered well. Nor does he have a good line of sight for the other players, who weren’t much involved.

    Where’s the beef?

  75. Speights, btw, 6-10, 255 lbs., $4m, is doing well for Cleveland and was instrumental in their win against OKC the other night: 21 pts., 10 boards.