Feltbot’s Farewell: Warriors 107 Grizzlies 84

Just like that, all of the suspense went out of a potential playoff matchup between the Warriors and Grizzlies. The Grizz have no chance against this Warriors squad. None, nada. As I tweeted in the fourth quarter, the only thing Grizzlies fans have left to look forward to this season is the final fall of the guillotine in the playoffs.

The media storyline will be that the Warriors have a strong enough and deep enough front line to neutralize the Grizzlies’ greatest strength. And the Warriors have Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson, and the Grizzlies don’t. That’s all very true, and a good summary of the situation.

But let’s take a deeper look. There are a number of very interesting reasons why the Grizzlies can’t possibly match up against the Warriors, that I doubt will ever get mentioned by the major media:  

The Zebo Cross-match: The Warriors broadcasters acted like cross-matching Andrew Bogut onto Zach Randolph and guarding Marc Gasol with Draymond Green was a new and exciting invention of Steve Kerr’s. Regular readers of this blog know that isn’t the case. I have been arguing for it for years, and Mark Jackson discovered it for himself, when he had a healthy big to play.

Putting Bogut (or Ezeli) on Zach Randolph spells doom for the Grizzlies, just as putting Bogut (or Ezeli) on Blake Griffin spells doom for the Clippers. Both Zebo and Griffin succeed by bullying inside, and when they can’t bully, there’s nothing left. The offenses of both their teams collapse, as the three point shooters of both the Grizzlies and the Clippers feed off of the open looks they get when their big men are doubled in the post.

Bogut on Zebo, bye bye double team.

The Gasol Cross-Match: You’d think that the Grizzlies could punish Dray in this matchup by simply moving Gasol to the low post. It’s not that simple. First of all, Gasol is unused to the low post. It’s not his bread and butter. Don Nelson used to delight in laying traps like this for teams. I quite clearly remember him laying a trap for Alvin Gentry, by guarding Channing Frye with Anthony Morrow. The next thing you knew, the three point shooting Frye was posted up on the low block. He did wind up eating Morrow alive, of course. But in the process, the Suns went completely away from their bread and butter, Nash and Stoudemire pick and roll with a spread floor. As Nellie was fond of saying, “You can only punish one matchup at a time.”

So yes, perhaps the Grizz can punish Dray a bit in this matchup, but only by going completely away from their preferred offense, which is Gasol in the high post and Randolph down low.

But maybe they can’t even punish this matchup. The Grizzlies spacing is infinitely worse when Gasol posts up rather than Randolph, and you saw the Warriors time and again sagging into the paint with impunity to give Dray help. With Randolph and Tony Allen off the ball, the Grizz simply don’t have the shooters to punish a double team of Gasol.

Checkmate. And kudos to Steve Kerr for getting it right.

The Grizzlies Defense: The Grizzlies have a vaunted defense, but it is completely powerless to stop the Warriors. For two reasons, their speed deficit, and their length deficit.

Speed deficit: This should be obvious to all, and again, kudos to Steve Kerr for transitioning this Warriors team to all-out Nellieball. With Draymond Green on the floor, the Grizzlies don’t have a prayer of guarding the Warriors. Not on the fast break, and not in the half court.

As the season has progressed, Green has gotten more and more comfortable handling the ball, and running the fast break. In the last few weeks, his confidence in this aspect of his game has exploded, and he has turned on the afterburners. He is rebounding the ball, taking off, and beating entire teams down court. When he is confronted, his finishing game has grown enormously. We’re seeing more And Ones than we are misses around the hoop. And of course, he is brilliant at finding the open man out at the three point line.

Can Zach Randolph keep up with him? Not a prayer.

Nor can Randolph guard Green out at the three point line. He has the same problem David Lee has when trying to guard a stretch-four. Not only that, but playing outside removes Randolph from his area of greatest effectiveness, defensive rebounding under the basket. Zebo finished with 3 boards, and the Warriors, who have struggled with rebounding all year, actually out-rebounded the monstrous Grizzlies on their home floor. Not that surprising. As I’ve pointed out for years, that tends to happen when you spread out big teams.

The Tony Allen Cross-Match, and the Length Deficit: Dave Joerger rather predictably cross-matched his best defender Tony Allen onto Klay Thompson, and hid Courtney Lee on Harrison Barnes. A decent idea, on paper. But the problem with this decision is that Tony Allen, while one of the most ferocious defenders in the league, is only 6-4″, and can’t challenge Klay’s shot even when he guards him tightly. Klay didn’t even feel his presence, just buried shot after shot in his mug.

The other problem with this cross-match is that it left Mike Conley on Stephen Curry. And while Conley is also an excellent defender who does give Curry problems, you simply can’t guard Curry with a point guard in the playoffs and expect to win. As has been proven, you have to get length on him. Extreme length.

So what should Joerger have done? Well, he doesn’t really have any good options, because the Grizzlies lack what I have always called “playoff length” on the wings. The Spurs and the Warriors both have playoff length, which allows not only the switching and disruption we are so familiar with this season on the defensive side, and not only the ability to play Nellieball on the front line while remaining competitive on the boards, but also the ability to get one’s shot off effortlessly in the playoffs over good defenders, as we saw tonight from Klay, and we’ve seen for years from Danny Green and Ginobili. And also from players like Mitch Richmond, and Michael Finley and Stephen Jackson. And Mario Elie, and Raja Bell and Kelenna Azubuike. It was those players who opened my eyes as to why Don Nelson always wanted great size in his two guards, and led to my understanding of playoff length. It’s no accident that both the Spurs and the Warriors emphasize size on the wings. Greg Popovich, Chris Mullin, Larry Riley, Travis Schlenk: they’re all from the Don Nelson tree, aren’t they?

The Grizzlies can get longer on the wings by changing their starting lineup. When they traded for Jeff Green, they started him at small forward, and benched Tony Allen. They gave up on that idea after a recent funk, and swapped the two players in the rotation. But if the Grizzlies want to match up with the Warriors, I think they need to try a third option: Bench Courtney Lee.

It’s obvious to me that the Grizzlies have to get Tony Allen on Steph Curry. Have to, no ifs, ands or buts. You put your best defender on Curry, and work from there. It also gets more length on Curry. Not the length of Danny Green or Matt Barnes, but more length than Conley.

Then you put Jeff Green on Klay. Again, not perfect, because Green is not a great defender, and Klay can probably beat him off the dribble. But Green has the length to run Klay off the three point line, and that is a major victory compared to what we saw tonight.

And you hide Mike Conley on Harrison Barnes, and dare the Warriors to try and beat you with that matchup. Which is what Popovich did, and will do again. Conley would actually be a much better defender of Barnes than Tony Parker, because he has the ability to completely take away Barnes’ dribble.

With the right matchups, the Grizzlies can defend the Warriors better than we saw on this night. But not well enough. And not without sacrificing some of their own offense. The real problem with Tony Allen, the biggest problem, is his inability to shoot from outside. And if you’re forced to sub Jeff Green for Courtney Lee to match up defensively, your outside shooting becomes that much worse. Which leads me to:

The Rest of the Story: The innumerable other reasons why the Grizzlies can’t hope to match up with the Warriors.

  • The Firepower Deficit: also known as the difference between hard twos and easy threes. No further explanation needed.
  • Spacing: the Warriors have it, the Grizzlies don’t.
  • Passing: the Warriors are the best passing team in the league, and with the spacing created by their Nellieball lineup, the slower Grizzlies don’t have a prayer of rotating in time. As we frequently saw tonight. Meanwhile, the cross-match on Randolph took away a big part of the Grizzlies inside-out passing game.
  • Frontline depth: As we saw tonight, the Grizzlies can’t get the Warriors in foul trouble, and they can’t wear the Warriors down. Lee for Green. Ezeli for Bogut. Speights in reserve. Barnes in a pinch. A big part of past Grizzlies big playoff wins against the Spurs and the Clippers came as a result of wearing down and dominating their front lines. Against the Warriors, not going to happen.
  • Coaching: I’ll take our guys.

Feltbot’s Farewell: In the days leading up to this game, I stated on twitter and in the last thread that regardless of the outcome of this game — which the Warriors flat out didn’t need —  the Warriors would destroy the Grizzlies in the playoffs. I was utterly certain of it.

And naturally, I took quite a bit of heat for it, from media members and others, who thought it was ridiculous to predict something which could simply not be known. I’ll let you decide whether I actually knew something before this game. Or the countless other times I’ve gone out on a limb to give away free picks and predictions to my readers.

I’ll just say that I’ve been relying on my opinions of things which simply can’t be known to make a pretty good living all of my life, in the markets, on the green felt, and in the arena of betting on NBA basketball.

The good news for the many whom I’ve endlessly annoyed over the last few years with my early prognistications, player evaluations, predictions and free picks, is that this season will be my last hurrah as a Warriors blogger. I’m hanging up my keyboard.

When I began this blog, it was with a cause. I am an advocate, by inclination as well as training, and when I started blogging, I had a case to make. The case for a universally despised coach (who was being run out of town on a rail by the Warriors media), for the ingenious and beautiful style of basketball he invented, and for a player whom I suspected, as soon as I laid eyes on him, would be not just one of the foremost practioners of that style, but one of the all-time greats. [Edit: I thought I might have a better, earlier link here, and this morning I had the time to find it. Here is something I wrote about Stephen Curry before he had ever played a regular season NBA game.]

That case has been made. The last four NBA champions have been Nellieball teams, and Nellieball is sweeping the league, the recognized system of the future. Joe Lacob has, after four agonizingly long years, finally hired a Nellieball coach (completely unwittingly, of course), who has the Warriors pointed at a championship. The Warriors media — so vituperous on the subject of smallball for years — have now all turned as a herd and are bellowing in the opposite direction.

And Stephen Curry is the MVP of the league.

My friends, as I watch Warriors games now, I can no longer find anything to advocate. I’m not one to write about what everyone can see for themselves. I’m not one for bandwagons, or herds. As this glorious season unfolds, this Nellieball championship run, all I have left to say to you is what I say to myself before every game…

Watch this.

149 Responses to Feltbot’s Farewell: Warriors 107 Grizzlies 84

  1. Big fan of your blog and your insights into the Dubs over the years. IMHO you really are spot-on with your information about what’s really happening on the basketball court. Really appreciate it. Like you, I’m not much of a bandwagoner myself, so it’s really refreshing to click on here and get a fresh view of the Warriors’ World. This season it’s been fun reading about the debate over how David Lee should be used, and also about how Harrison Barnes is not exactly the best SF in the league. Piques my interest more than all the rah-rah biz.

    Anyways, it would be sad if you’re really not going to continue this blog, but then again I can understand. Of course, every season is new and different though. Don’t you want to leave yourself an out for the future? How about at least waiting until the playoffs are over? Just my 2 cents.

  2. Andrew Pérez

    Wow. Thank you for everything, Feltbot. Mixed emotions as I read this blog and look back at the years I’ve followed you – since I moved back to California from Chicago after “We Believe”. I’ve steadily become obsessed with basketball, and have taken a lot of wisdom and humor from this blog. You’ll be missed, but what a joy to watch the proof in the pudding. Go Warriors!

  3. congratulations, guv. we’ll miss you of course. d’mond seems nearly as essential to the team they’ve become as curry, virtually the team’s co-star and far beyond whatever the lacobites saw in him.

  4. Wow not shocking I suppose and probably fairly liberating for you but thanks much for years of entertainment and thought-provoking analysis. Your blog has always been a must-read for me. You’re the Muhummad Ali of the media in all the best ways. Enjoy your free time, maybe you could offer to pass the baton to some of the followers who spend endless hours goring each other in the comments. Your style is truly unique and these followers could keep it going as you relax in the sunset. Best of luck sir-

  5. I read your column daily at the top of my list along with a subscribed market report. Your analysis is amazing and filled with truths (and humor), nothing else close out there. I suppose you will continue to tweet, so I’ll have to start an account and learn how to use it.

  6. Felt,
    You have to take us through the playoffs with this team having a real chance to take it all. As you know the playoffs are almost a different game much more physical. The first round series could be their most difficult. Finish the season strong like our warriors.

  7. Thank you.

  8. A loss, Feltbot. We don’t get much of the angle you give elsewhere. And thanks. Good to see supporters here we haven’t head from.

  9. Andrew Pérez

    I agree with David. Come on Felty, just for funsies!

  10. I edited the last section of my post to include this link to something I wrote about Curry before he had played a regular season game:


    Thanks for the kind words, guys. In case it wasn’t clear, I will continue to blog through the Finals. This is my championship run.

  11. WheresMyChippy

    Beautiful writing as always. Thanks for everything Felt.

    Really hoping you won’t disappear completely, I still learn something from every post. You’ve given more than enough, but I still have to hope you’ll pop in on rare occasion to enlighten us. 140 characters at a time is not enough!

    I’ve read every word you’ve written on this website, and championed your arguments in pubs and living rooms and other blogs. No one comes close to your analysis. I hope the reasons you stated are really the main reasons and its not the “haters” who have worn on you. Long live Nellieball. Long live Feltbot.

  12. Barnes lovers, I bear news: For the first time in my life, I have bought Harrison Barnes in a daily fantasy league. All it took was for Draymond and Iggy to be out at the same time.

    Let’s go Black Falcon!

    (Please, please, please JKidd, put the Greek Freak on Klay Thompson where he belongs. Or Curry. Anywhere but on The Black Falcon.)

  13. Really sad to hear you’re leaving. I’ve been singing praises to everyone I know that this is the best basketball blog, hands down. Please email all your followers where and when we can read anything you write in the future. Thanks for all your great insight and commentary. Go Warriors!!!

  14. All good things must come to an end, or what’s the point? Fitting you go out with the team on top.

    Hope you didn’t view me as a hater. Or a malignant force. Just a Warriors fan

    • rzz, you’re fortunate if you’ve avoided visits to the lauridsen fan blog with a fair portion of his regulars and spiritual leaders reviling nelson, ‘small ball’, feltbot, and our guvnor’s modest ‘constituency’. nothing you’ve expressed comes close to their hoard of animus.

      dissolving this blog will unfortunately leave nothing for contrarians like me. as we’ve already seen in abundance, partisans just point to the team’s overwhelming success to refute all critiques, and that will probably be our fate into the future. will try to follow Professor Rubin’s example, ‘other projects beckon’.

  15. thank you fb

  16. Wow. I’m sure I represent the silent majority: those who love your blog but never comment. As a 39 year season ticket holder, I have seen it all (Sleepy’s 39 fourth quarter at my end of the basket, on an afternoon when I began with breakfast at the Ahwahnee, represents the high-water mark). I expect this year to surpass.

    I have so enjoyed your amazingly insightful comments. The occasional (more, recently) degeneration into name calling…well that’s a price of admission. My regret is not finding the blog until last year. Thanks so much. This will be missed by me.

  17. All good things must come to an end. You have the best basketball blog going Felt. Notice I didn’t just say Warriors blog. Irreplacable in my opinion.

    • Thanks, my friend. Quite a compliment.

      • seriously now, Professor Rubin, we’ve all heard the expressions, ‘pound for pound’ or ‘inch for inch’, followed by ‘the best’ in reference to athletes. ‘word for word’ your hoops analysis is superior to most in the national media, and on par with the best, z.lowe comes to mind.

        have you considered doing guest columns for grantland or similar sites in the future.

        • High praise coming from you, moto, appreciate it. As far as I know, guest columns aren’t on offer from blog sites, just slavery. I have turned down a couple of offers to don the shackles.

          I’m not sure what my next project will be, but I doubt it will involve sportswriting.

  18. I’m very confused on what to think about McAdoo. I like him so much more than his UNC brethren on the team. He just can’t shoot. If he could though…

    • Did u see his closing stint at center? That’s where he belongs unless he gets a shot.

      • Yeah, I think that’s right. I’d like to see him at the 5 some with Draymond at 4.

        • Somehow they’ve been on the court together less than 1 minute this season.

        • McAdoo-Green 5-4 might be an overall more effective small ball combo than Green-Barnes 5-4.

          • Might be?

            McAdoo is a ball-hawk, Barnes is a “touch-me-not” flower who avoids conflict. Want rebounds/effort/good movement/extra possessions? Use McAdoo. Barnes won’t deliver those things unless you hold a dagger to his ribs (sorry, been watching Game of Thrones again…).

            OTOH, Barnes shoots well when he’s ignored by opponents’ D. When left wide open, he’ll usually sink the shot. McAdoo usually won’t.

            Maybe McAdoo is a stand-in for Green, not Barnes. In short-speak, an “effort guy” with a nose for the ball.

            I like McAdoo a lot. If he improved his shooting he’d be hard to take off the floor.

  19. With Curry out of the game, on several sequences Klay handled the ball, drove, and assisted instead of Livingston, who was also in the game. It was almost as if Klay was the PG. He just kind did it.

    • He’s always had that. He was a pg in high school. The team has never asked that from him though. They’ve wanted him to shoot every time he touches it.

  20. Felt, I’ve kinda/sorta anticipated your departure for awhile, but it’s still disappointing. What’s the point of advocating Nellieball when it’s the accepted standard? How boring is that? Since this blog isn’t a business for you, you don’t need to bore yourself. Darn.

    I like blabbing here, the only place I’ve found where speaking facts about sports isn’t a violation of some secret Nazi loyalty test.

    You’ve been a consistent advocate for a beautiful form of a beautiful game, and along the way you’ve provided thoughtful – and thought-provoking – insights into the actual nuts-and-bolts mechanics of what’s happening on the hardwood.

    You have a rare gift, and you’ve guarded it well against commercialism, the journalistic echo chamber, and all the blandishments ($$$) of a system that rewards mediocrity and dishonesty in the name of popularity.

    Bless you. And thank you.


  21. Thanks, Hat, and rgg (see what I did there?), and everyone else, all this high praise is really making me blush, but much appreciated. I’ve also greatly appreciated the contributions of you and everyone else who’ve posted here. I had literally no inkling of forming a community or discussion group or whatever you want to call our daily breaking of bread here when I began this quixotic endeavor. It’s been astonishing and gratifying that so many have come along for the ride. And quite frankly, the feedback here has kept me going and made me better.

    A reminder to all, I will be continuing to blog throughout the Warriors championship run, so with a little luck we have almost another half season of games to take in together. Perhaps I should have waited until the final game to hand in my notice, but for some reason I felt like I should give everyone fair warning.

    So maybe all this is a bit premature. Could be, by the time I finally get around to putting in my last word, you’ll be saying: “Hey, didn’t you promise you were quitting? Get lost, already!”

    Thanks again, guys. Now let’s get ready for a playoff run for the ages.

    • So, now that warriors are winning, there is no pleasure in writing for you :-)

      Enjoyed your recaps of the game. You seemed to enjoy writing, so think you have good reasons to move on. Good lucks with all that.

  22. I know I never established credentials but reading your writing has been such a privilege and yes, a joy. Hat said it best for me:

    You’ve been a consistent advocate for a beautiful form of a beautiful game.

    And you’ve done it with beautiful writing and beautiful insight. You’re much more than an advocate for a particular sport. You’re an advocate for appreciating the many forms life can take, basketball just being one. I hope you keep writing in some way. I suspect it does you as much good as it does your readers. And yes, in the meantime, a playoff run for the ages. (60-13!!!!!!!!!!!)
    Many thanks , Felt.

    • Wow, thanks Mary. You guys better cut this out now, or I’ll start to weep. Or worse, sign up for another year. When is the next Warriors game, I’m in dire need here!

  23. Going out on top, very Seinfeld of you, Sir.
    You are a legend, and the only writer of any form I refuse to miss a word from. Hopefully this will up your twitter input and you can be coerced into quarterly updates here for old time’s sake in future seasons. Call me optimistic, but I choose not to believe this is truly it, no matter how clearly you spelled it out.
    One thing I noticed in your speech was mentioning free betting advice.
    I can’t believe more of you don’t utilize this gold and hope I can still get it post-blog. I’m a poker player, but not a big sports bettor. When my bookie friend told me he cuts everyone who so much as break even each season, and that it amounts to 3 people per year, I really realized what a suckers bet sports are. However, this year I decided to cross reference my two favorite sources- Feltbot’s gut and Wins Produced. I took where the feltgut and wp projections met and I put my money on the line. 6 bets totaling $7k, the smallest being my one loss (MIN over 24 wins for $500) and the biggest, the only one of the FIVE winners that hasn’t hit yet, but will with ONE more loss (WAS under 48.5 for $2500). Total uptick on the season $6k, going 5/6 with my only dog being my smallest bet. And the sickest part- there are still 10 games left in the season and all of my bets have hit. Unless WAS goes 9-0 to close, game over. The legend of Feltbot continues. Unlimited thai food on me. Many thanks.

    • Thank you, sir. I have enjoyed sweating these bets with you this season on twitter. And it’s good to know a reader is experiencing the joy of victory with me.

      I also have one bet left to sweat, but it’s not Washington. I got the Vegas line, at under 49.5. What I’m sweating is a bet with a friend, the Bulls against the Cavs, getting 4 games. Literally everything has gone wrong with this bet since midseason, yet I’m clinging to a precarious 2 game lead at the moment.

      I’m trying to go 5-1 like yourself, but will at worst be 4-2. Like every season, I will grade my preseason forecast when the dust settles.

    • “However, this year I decided to cross reference my two favorite sources- Feltbot’s gut and Wins Produced. I took where the feltgut and wp projections met and I put my money on the line. ”

      Next year avoid using WP. It’s actually the worst predictor of the publicly available metrics you can find.

      Try using one of the APM-based metrics folks on APBRmetrics used this season (note that the WP-based metrics *cough*Arturo Galletti*cough* are at the bottom of the list):


  24. GooseLosGatos

    Never thought I’d be saying this but real real sorry about the news on Feltbot.

    I have learned so much about the game by reading your posts. & brilliant analysis.. I feel when I watch a game now I can speak ‘somewhat’ sensibly about what’s going on to my friends & fellow bar patrons.

    I also really appreciate all the time you put into the site. I remember getting into a somewhat heated exchange with Feltbot (I crossed the line on that one – can be dangerous to drink & post) and having reflected on it felt like I was an ungrateful little s*** as the site has brought me & many others much pleasure.

    Not a big fan of the Golden State of Mind site though I do appreciate their passion & dedication.

    Feltbot, could you recommended done NBA & Warriors sites where you respect the thinking & analysis as a lot of us are now ‘Felbot Refugees’….

    Thanks much,


  25. GooseLosGatos

    Of forgot….play armchair poker (watch on TV and ‘guess along’.

    Who would rank as the current top 5 poker players in the World.

    Also, is Daniel Negranyu (mispelled I’m assuming) as good at ‘reading’ his opponents as he is on TV? My friend & his girlfriend met him & said he was a very nice & down-to-earth guy which was cool to hear.


    • None of the guys you see on TV. Except perhaps for High Stakes Poker. The best players in the world are cash game players. Guys like Tom Dwan, Cole South, Phil Galfond, Daniel Cates, Patrick Antonius are playing for the highest stakes right now, so are probably regarded as the best. Guys most people have never heard of. I don’t mention Phil Ivey because I think his methods are suspect. Daniel Negreanu is a terrific guy, great no limit tourney player, great ambassador, but I don’t think is regarded as one of the top 100 cash game players in the world.

      Tournaments are for monkeys like Phil Hellmuth — patience becomes a vice rather than a virtue, the luck element is magnified, and the rakes have been raised so high by greedy casinos that tournies are now unprofitable for anyone who doesn’t get TV and promotional checks. They take advantage of players who want to see themselves on TV. I used to be somewhat regular on the $10k tourney circuit, just for fun (my bread and butter is cash games), but no longer. Tourneys have become a lottery with losing odds, and are now widely referred to as “donkaments.”

      • GooseLosGatos


        the most interesting insight into Professional Poker I’ve ever come across.

        Two Questions:

        1) If ‘cash game’ players are superior why don’t they play tournament poker? I don’t know how much Cash Players earn but I would suspect that they would earn more in tournament poker factoring in the endorsement opportunities as they would become icons/public figures?

        2) What about Phil Ivey’s methods are suspect? Isn’t success ‘success’ no matter your method to achieve it? – playing devils advocate here….

        I take it by you’re not mentioning other ‘quality analysis’ NBA websites you don’t ‘respect’ many if any?

        • 1) I gave you several reasons why cash players don’t play tournaments, chiefly they don’t reward skill to the extent that cash games do, and they’re impossible to beat in the long term because the rake structures are too high. The 11% rake of WSOP events is absolutely ridiculous — no one can beat that long term, no matter what their skill level. Before the TV craze the rakes were 3%.

          Cash players are generally too smart to waste their time with that, although it’s hard to resist a few prestige events a year.

          Another reason I didn’t mention is that it’s hard to go back and forth from cash to tournaments. Most famous tournament players are absolute fish in the cash games. They simply don’t have the patience or the skills. Phil Hellmuth is legendary in that regard. He’s lost millions playing cash.

          Conversely, the patience of cash players is a vice in tournaments. The time pressure of tournament blinds steadily increasing frequently requires playing with reckless abandon. Cash players simply aren’t wired that way, which in many cases makes them far less competitive in tournaments than far worse players.

          2) By your definition Lance Armstrong and Bernie Madoff were successes for many years.

          I would suggest googling Ivey in conjunction with “edge sorting” and “full tilt” loans, and then drawing whatever inferences you wish.

        • Regarding websites, I would recommend Grantland, and particularly Zach Lowe. Bill Simmons if you can stand him, is extremely informative but not very insightful. To be honest, I never read anyone for analysis — it generally makes my head explode. When I read something it’s for information, or human interest.

          On twitter I would follow @haralabob — other than people here probably the only person I’ve learned from who wasn’t an NBA coach or GM. He’s a professional NBA bettor, who’s also a pro poker player I’ve played against in tourneys.

          • GooseLosGatos


            Again, very very fascinating about the poker.

            Also, just for clarification if you read my post I wasn’t disputing that Phil Ivy didn’t have questionable methods but rather ‘pushing back’ to get your analysis of how & why.

            In any case, appreciate the thorough explanation which I did research further and with great interest. ‘Edge Sorting’ – who woulda thunk????

    • Very like Goldsberry to get Barnes SF/PF splits wrong.

      • Yeah, that was wrong. 87% at the 4, 13% at the 3! Maybe Goldsberry needs a fact checker, or maybe he doesn’t mind stretching facts to make a point.

        Oddly, 82games.com gets it wrong too:


        They list Barnes at 1% at SF, 53% at PF, and 5% at C!

        Harrison Barnes, the positional chameleon. No one can tell what position he’s really playing.

        • many casual hoops viewers are biased in evaluation toward offense, with boards the next most obvious aspect considered. (the Mem g.m. is a respected analytics guy, and his so called advanced system is also partial to scoring and rebounding). on offense green does more things like a conventional wing, like leading the break and handling the ball, than mr.barnes does. lucky mr.barnes often gets excused from some of the usual duties of the 4 as well, like setting screens or hitting the boards hard and often, so unfamiliar observers can justifiably assign him almost any position.

          • Come to think of it – and thanks for pointing it out – I’ve never seen Barnes set a screen. Anywhere, anytime.

            But then I don’t remember Curry or Thompson set one either. I guess “designated shooters” don’t do that.

          • Hat, Klay and Steph set back screens fairly regularly, as called out by Barnett during the games. Barnett remarked guys back in the day would vigorously resist guards doing so (I took it Barnett was concerned with Curry getting roughed up). Never heard Barnett calling a Barnes screen and never saw one either. Odd, he should be able to roll, oops, I forgot, Kerr don’t like P&R.

          • FWIW, the W’s basically never run P&R for Barnes, but they did twice in the last minute of the first half vs. New Orleans a few games ago. The results: 2 baskets for HB.

            And regarding Klay/Curry setting screens, I believe the last couple of times Barnes has gotten a dunk on a baseline out-of-bounds play, it’s because Klay set a screen on HB’s defender. Because Klay’s defender is understandably afraid of Klay popping out for an open 3, he doesn’t think about switching… thus conceding the uncontested dunk (at least until teams scout this play better).

          • right, Marc, back screens (picking off a defender away from the ball) set by guards is a feature of the flex offense. why it was mentioned to rzz discussing the Chi team of the early 70s, with a recommendation that curry keep his mouthpiece where it belongs. motta first developed the flex in college, introduced it to the n.b.a. as the very first Dal coach. fifteen wins in their maiden season, two rookies named aguirre and blackman in their second season, motta with those two seeing the playoffs in their third year. most of the coaches using it now assimilated it from scouting against sloan’s teams all those seasons in UT ; stockton, like sloan, not bashful with his shoulder, elbow, or hip.

          • Gee, guys, I was trying to give Barnes a break. I didn’t want to single him out as the only one on the starting 5 who didn’t cooperate with team play. But you all wouldn’t let me.

  26. unfortunately for the local fans who aren’t ‘authentic fan’ season ticket owners, the stubhub(ebay) lawsuit calling out ticketmaster and the lacobites for price fixing won’t be resolved by the playoffs. we should expect lacob to surpass the bar he set for first round ticket prices last spring.

  27. HB:
    1 pt, guarded by the white T-Rex
    That call on MBarnes defending Iggys 3 made up for some bad calls


    • You’re crazy, rzzzz. HB was +14 for the team! Highest by far!

      Really a satisfying game. The Clipz wanted this one. Heavy minutes by the starters. Lee filled in without missing a beat. Great fill in by Speights and Ezeli. I am encouraged.

  28. Felt,

    Long time reader – very, very long time reader, never a poster.
    Your blog truly is the best in basketball. As a Warriors fan, the debate you inspire will be truly missed. Thanks for all these years giving me something to read at work or in travel or wherever. I want to make special note of not just your writing but of all the commenters here who’s remarks your make possible. Your blog is a wealth of Warriors AND basketball knowledge and over the years the debates here have gotten better and better. S/O to all the frequent readers and debaters that make this the best blog in the beautiful game. Thanks again Felt!

    • And that was on National TV. The LA crowd was oohhing & aahhing.

    • one thing i had missed that the slowmo revealed was the elegant flicker of curry’s fingers on the follow through. remarkable.

      indeed, one of the best parts of this play was how he rose up and buried the j after, cool as a polar bear’s toenails.

      for anyone interested, robert farris thompson has written some fascinating works about the cultural value of ‘coolness’, grace and nonchalance under extreme pressure, in west african/nigerian/congo-angolan cultures. the same cultures/lands from which the vast majority of afroamericans (north, south and caribbean) hail.

      such a dramatic juxtaposition as the bench explodes in what can only be described as spontaneous dance (also looks incredible in slowmo) as curry and klay trot slowly back downcourt. (anyone notice the water bottle??)

      as thompson writes: “the artistic freezing of the human face, possessed of black intelligence, becomes among the knowing followers of the cool, an object of universal awe.

      “To dance or perform ahtletic or jurisprudential wonders with a cool face is to enact the force of reason. The human condition is momentarily led to points of calm, there to find sources of renewed illumination”
      Robert Farris Thompson, Aesthetic of the Cool: Afro-Atlantic Art and Music, p.29

  29. cosmicballoon

    I had the desire to rail into Barnes performance, but the local whipping boy doesn’t need to be berated here again. Instead I’ll mention a few things that were fascinating about this game.

    a) Chris Paul has lost a step on defense and he has gotten even more physical and crafty. All night long he was hanging onto Curry, slapping him, grabbing him and generally trying to get inside of his head. Curry was TOTALLY annoyed and was complaining to the refs all night. Let’s hope Curry doesn’t fall into this during the playoffs. It didn’t really affect his game, except that he was held without a made field goal in the 4th.

    b) The Clippers bench is horrendous. All 5 Clippers starters played 39+ minutes, while the Warriors starters played 36 minutes (Curry), 34 minutes (Klay) and the rest 30 or less.

    c) Sitting Draymond could be 1 of 2 things. 1) He actually has a badly bruised shin, or shin splints and he needs the rest. 2) Kerr is really smart and he didn’t want Green taking multiple cheap shots from Griffin, Barnes, CP3 and Jordan.

    d) The officials didn’t really know how to handle this game. The Speights dunk followed by the tech foul for running over Paul was ridiculous. Speights never saw Paul, and was not trying to do anything. It was shocking that even after going to replay, the officials blew that call. The officials went to replay too many times in this game, IMO.

    e) Bogut is playing his best basketball as a Warrior. He has settled into an awesome defensive role, and on offense, his passing gets the Ws 2 or 3 backdoor layups almost every game. Additionally, he’s starting to take and make the ugly push shot with consistency when he gets the ball in the middle. Plus, his free throw shooting has improved. Feltbot has gotten awfully quiet as Bogut heads into the playoffs healthy. (So have the rest of us, for that matter).

    f) The Warriors let Blake Griffin get his from the top of the key, and tried to shut down everyone else. This is an interesting strategy, and it paid off in the second half when Blake cooled down from the outside.

    g) It will be very interesting how Kerr decides to rest his team down the stretch. Will he be able to keep them sharp heading into that first round series with OKC? The Warriors are the better team, but if they aren’t sharp in game 1, then OKC comes out of Oracle with a split, and we have a real series. It’s a scary scenario.

    • Barnes was a non factor yesterday, he was bad and ineffective.

      He was active though, despite missing 3s he usually makes. Team needed his and Klay’s rebounding yesterday, 15 rebs between them.

    • Good recap.

      It keeps staring us in the face. This was the kind of physical defense they’ll see in the playoffs, and everyone was aggressive and tested it—

      Except Barnes.

      He was -7 his first stint, the first 6 and a half minutes, when the offense stalled and he essentially did nothing. It will be much harder to catch up against the better teams. They have to get off to a good start.


      Think if they started Lee, Bogut, Green (at 3), Klay, and Curry, how much tougher their defense would be, the greater options they’d have on offense. Ezeli and Speights could back up the bigs, maybe Speights offer some scoring punch, plus Livingston and Barbosa. The starters could be staggered, with Klay and Iguodala providing ball handling, and Curry in spots. Livingston and Barbosa can play minutes with the starters to give at least Klay and even Curry some rest. Then of course they could go small with Green at 4 and Lee at 5, or even Green at 5. Plenty of options here, and it’s all they’d need.

      Where Barnes could really prove valuable is if he could bolster the subs. And he can’t.

    • Re a, according to Goldsberry, Paul is the best wing defender in the league. Crafty, yes. Sneaky, even.

      Re b, the Clips bench is going to cost them. They’re not going far in the playoff grind.

      Re c, a third possibility is that Kerr wants to tune up D Lee for the playoffs. Considering how rusty he must be, he had a decent DLee game last night, very efficient and opportunistic on O, and Curry still has a great feel for working with him. Hopefully with a few more reps Lee will up his D and boards too. In any case, it was nice to see Lee freed from the 2nd unit’s feeble triangle offense. He’s better on the move, not just standing there waving the ball over his head.

      Re e, yeah, Bogut has been good! Checking the box score I was surprised to see that the Ws actually outrebounded the Clips last night. That doesn’t happen w/out Bogut.

      One other thought, I enjoyed seeing Ezeli brutalizing everything that moved in the paint, especially against the Clipper bullies. He’s getting better too. Now if he learns a few dirty tricks from Bogut (and stays healthy), he could be very good.

      • Agree on Ezeli, could prove warriors secret weapon, not like warriors need a secret weapon.

      • Rebounding victory doesn’t happen without Lee either, Hat. He usually had primary responsibility for Jordan, who was held to 4 OR. Lee did a hell of a job boxing out last night. As most nights.

        • cosmicballoon

          Bogut and Lee fouled Jordan extremely well, too. Jordan’s ORs and shots at the rim were not dunks, they were putbacks that more often than not, missed. I think limiting Jordan was the reason Griffin got all those open looks. Paul was passing backward, not throwing alley-oops.

  30. Glad to see Green getting some rest and healing. He’ll be needed against Kantner-Adams-Ibaka.

    rgg, I’m also a proponent of your idea of starting DLee and Green at the 3, except if Kerr would abandon the triangle, Lees scoring is needed off the bench.

    • If they up the minutes for the starters during the playoffs and Lee can go 30 minutes, they have all kinds of options to stagger starters. And should they be able to get off to a fast start and build a lead, Kerr can experiment with subs and see if they can hold.

      Seeing how Kerr plays them during the playoffs should be educational.

      • warriorablaze

        There’s pretty near zero chance Kerr is going to suddenly change the starting line-up for the playoffs, so you may as well let it go.

        Hopefully Lee’s minutes are upped and HB’s minutes drop when it gets real… that much, we definitely agree on.

        • the matchups will be a big factor on the quality and type of shots green sees against the better teams. can’t expect him to maintain the same level of energy on offense that he does against the lesser teams, when he’s defending one of the top players on the opposition. he can be very effective picking his spots, leading the break for a small handful of opportunities for example.

        • I wonder. Barnes is clearly a project with mixed results at best. Obviously he hasn’t come around much. Just as obvious, the coaches see better what we see. And still obvious, they could afford to do this, as the record shows. The talk of “chemistry” had to be PR for a really odd decision—moving two starters and All Stars to the bench. But both Lee and Iguodala have gotten rest, and for all appearances, let us hope, are healthy.

          Lee fit in seamlessly, instantly with the starters, the few games he got a chance, the last two games and the game against Cleveland. And he still played with Barnes instead of Green.

          There is absolutely nothing to lose here and everything to gain.

          Besides, a boy can hope.

          • warriorsablaze

            Regardless, if there’s a change, it needs to be Iggy, not Lee, that moves to the starting lineup in place of Barnes.

            Lee is great as a small-ball 5, not as useful as a tradition 4 next to Bogut. The spacing Green at the 4 creates has definitely been a factor in Curry (and Klay’s) improved play near the rim.

          • Then who plays the point on the second unit? Lacob’s cube.

    • cosmicballoon

      Hopefully Green’s 3-point shot doesn’t desert him. That’s one of the keys to the Warriors starters blowing people out.

  31. Regarding Bogut, yes he’s playing extremely well, and Kerr is utilizing him beautifully. Fingers crossed.

    I will note that he had a much more difficult time with the Griffin cross match than with Zebo. Griffin got around him inside, got him in foul trouble, and the Warriors had to live with several wide open jumpers.

    Regardless, Clips can’t beat this team.

  32. I don’t pay much attention to Bleacher Report, and this happy-hokey hype article about Draymond Green is the type of thing that usually keeps me away. But this article had one really fine component. Check out the “Draymond Green Defense Chart” about halfway down. I knew he was good, but Wow.


  33. mr.barnes comes in with 1.29 left for lee to close, so if they can come back ….

  34. That Warren kid played really well tonight. Another young UNC guy. He isoed and scored on Iguodala among his other baskets.

    Was he drafted or a free agent like McAdoo?

    • the folks at NC State would not be thrilled with seeing their guy described that way. warren was Phx’ first round pick, the bottom of the lottery when they barely missed the playoff cut last season.

      • I think the Suns got that one right.

        • I was impressed with Warren too, not intimidated a bit playing in front of hostile crowd and defended by all NBA defender.

        • in his second and final college season, warren led the ACC in scoring with just under 25 per game, against opponents knowing he was his team’s only threat.

          • Warren is 6-8, 215, 21 years old SF.

            Another Suns prospect imo is Archie Goodwin, 6-5, 200 , 20 years old SG.

  35. Checkin for a 1984 obit at SFPubLibrRy. This stuff gets dreary so I always look at the Green. Purvis Short had 40 as the Wubs beat the KC Kings 115-109. Coach John Bach (easy to forget coach) lauded JB Carroll’s play as he had 28 and 11 going against Joe C Merriweather. The article also mentioned the team had won 7 of 10, so I had to check the standings. There were only 4 divisions and GS was 11.5 out…
    The Oakland Invaders also lost 10-0 in front of 22 thousand at the Coliseum. On the front page Walter Mondale ripped into fellow Dem Prez candidate Gary Hart. Guess it was pre “monkey-business’ ( was that the name of the boat?)
    Speaking of initials TJ Warren almost singlehandedly sunk the Wubs last nite. Thank God for Harrison Barnes!

    • kerr and barbosa probably know as well as anyone that teams need the fickle hoops gods to smile in the post season. will they count on barnes getting lucky in the final minute — he came into the game for defense, with little positive effect there.

      • seriously, you are not giving credit for Barnes hitting the shot with .4 seconds left. That last possession was for offense only and not for defense, so no, he didn’t come for defense.

        • harry, you might enjoy the twits on the right side of this page. barnes subbed in for lee at 1.30 left in the game ; it’s your own team’s agit-prop that has rationalized lee’s reduced role from his limited range on defense, specifically switching. with 26 seconds remaining they were tied at 102, curry instructs barnes on a switch, he’s too slow to respond and ends up minding no one as Phx gets a lay in. after curry gives them a one point lead, again barnes missed a switch — lee’s incompatibility with that defensive task was specifically cited by kerr — and Phx goes ahead again.

          no one will ever take credit away from mr.barnes for the final score of the game, and it was duly filed with the brief supporting lacob’s case that he’s the future of the team, part of the core of their own draft picks.

        • Barnes will need to score during the play-offs, because of the attention paid to Curry and Thompson, as was the case on that last play. It will be interesting to me to see if he’s up to it. I hope so, he’s a really good guy.

  36. GooseLosGatos

    I have a sense Feltbot is somewhere reading all the posts & fighting the urge to post… Just a hunch….

    Why not ‘complete’ what could be a Championship Season for the Dubs. Only 1.5 Miles left in the marathon….

    • GooseLosGatos

      I suspect Felbot has his own motivations but anyone else concurr?…..

    • was a gigantes beisbol fan since ’59 (rookie season of mccovey, at the time one of the team’s fastest and quickest on the bases) but their bandwagon became so vast and arrogant, gave them up. a trophy for lacob will probably liberate me from auditing/observing his team, other than an occasional guilty indulgence.

      • How sad. Staying on top is tougher in some ways than getting there. What will Kerr & co. do without our superlative guidance?

        Feltbot has led the way on most of the Ws team strategy for years now. We cite a stat and Fitz uses it in his next broadcast. We promote a player and he becomes Money. Have you noticed that the team isn’t running Barnes promos any more? We’ve even had team ringers here, trying to steer the conversation toward rahrah positivity.

        This site will be missed.

        I predict serious backsliding next year. Don’t quit now, moto.

      • So, you don’t want warriors to win ??

  37. No Parsons tonight.

  38. MoS long 2 top of key and a monster 3 perfect swish at the buzzer. Mo said that’s the only time he’s allowed to shot 3’s.


    • Well, Mo canned another 3. Kerr just smiled and shook his head.

    • Mokur!

    • Can anyone think of a good reason why Mokur is not allowed to shoot 3 pointers, while Kerr’s offense is literally set up to get him 20-foot twos?

      Perplexing in the extreme, on a team that is supposed to be cutting edge on analytics.

      • May be he doesn’t make enough in practice. Hope he makes 3 pt shooting a priority in off season, then we will have better version of Bonner.

        • ..???

          Why would he practice 3’s, if he’s not allowed to shoot them in games??? That would just piss Kerr off. Did you notice he benched Mo after that last 3? Or was that just coincidence?

          I say Free Mo now!

          • Marc,

            Kerr is very smart and I have to believed if Mo shoots 3s consistently in practice of have confidence in his shot, he will actually ask him to shoot 3.

      • You’re right. I think it’s coming. Maybe next year.

      • I believe Mo could bury 3’s more consistently than Iguodala, Barnes, Holiday, or Barbosa. And Mo out at the 3pt line, as you posted, would sure free up the driving/P&R lanes on that 2nd unit.

  39. Anyone have any thoughts on Livingston’s “defensive maneuver” on Dirk last night?

    Does Sean lose his “good citizenship” award? He’s not a good team fit anyway, so is his sick little trick enough to convince management to ship him out this summer?

    • I don’t find it plausible that it was unintentional. It didn’t really look, as he appeared to argue after the fact, like he was trying to get his arm up into an arm bar.

      On the other hand, why do it? Very strange play.

      On the plus side, Livingston did refrain from making this argument: “Hey, all ball!”

      • The jerk did argue his case with the refs, presumably to say it was an accident, but you are absolutely correct, that is not plausible. Yes, a bizarre move. Pointless, stupid and disgusting too.

    • I don’t think that was intentional on Shaun’s part. Dirks behind was planted in Livs abdomen and there was only one way for his hand to go, if he tried to bring it up. It seems
      The Dirksters reaction is pretty funny in slo-mo. Understandable.
      Just label the whole thing the “Sour Kraut and Huevos affair”

      On a side note , I had to look up the word Juggernaut. I would have bet my life it was of Anglo-Germanic origin, but it’s Sanskrit.

      • Aue contraire, rzz. Liv had to stretch to reach between Dirk’s legs all the way to his balls. I’ve played bball (clumsily) for over 50 years without ever whacking someone’s balls from behind. Between his legs.

      • rzz, Sanskrit actually comes from the same ueber-mutter linguistic foundation as the germanic, anglo saxon, romance, slavic, tongues, the term is Indo-aryan ; its origins in what westerners call western asia or what we could term the eurasian heartland. the main exceptions in central or western Europa, that is to say, languages that are not Indo-aryan derived, are Finno-urgic (as in Hungarian) languages and Basque. from the eurocentric perspective, sanskrit is much more a western language than an eastern one, relative to Sino-tibetan tongues for example or the Athabascan or Algonquian languages which crossed the land bridge and survive in our Amerindian tongues.

        the industrial age germans perverted the meaning of ‘aryan’ into their racial nonsense after one of their nineteenth century scholars speculated on the origin of the germanic tribes, attempting to trace them to a more ancient Indo-aryan group. back in the early days of the Indus civilizations (millennia before the romans named the germanic tribes and region after the big chief leading the fight against the roman invasion), there probably was a racial superiority element in the ideology of the original Aryans as they conquered the peoples who’d preceded them in the region, and the hindu caste system remained as part of that conquest’s heritage.

    • It appeared to me Livingston was genuinely embarrassed and immediately implored Dirk that his action was an unintentional mistake.

  40. Nice to see Ezeli beasting again last night. He had some nice within-his-range offensive moves too. Add some more court awareness and a midrange shot, and he’s potentially a starting NBA center.

    One of the very best things about the current coaching staff is the individual skills development displayed by many on the team. That’s true of more than just Ezeli. Dray has offense! Barbosa plays D! Barnes is mostly useful! Klay score all over the floor! Curry is suddenly an elite defender! None of those things happen under Mark Jackson.

    • Barbosa’s defensive usefulness is one of the more remarkable player developments of the season, in that it simply couldn’t be forecast.

      • They have always had the talent. Now they are a better engineered team. They have made a lot of technical adjustments, and I suspect Ron Adams deserves the bulk of the credit. Every week we hear about his working with a player on shot mechanics, rebounding technique, etc. And the defensive scheme must be his.

        I’d be curious to hear their conversations, know the influence of each and how well they get along, although when you’re winning it’s easy to get along.

        Gentry talks most to the media, but really doesn’t talk strategy, rather talks about defense and execution. We have to assume he has had much influence with the starters—pushing the pace, working for fast breaks, early offense. He probably had conversations with Kerr while at Phoenix.

        This whatever offense with the subs, however, has to be Kerr. Iguodala referred to it as Princeton last night. Their winning margins have made the experiment possible, though the results are mixed at best. No Gentry here.

        Obviously they learned from last season’s mistakes. They have worked to develop the whole roster and not push the starters heavy minutes. Kerr has a break here, however, that Jackson didn’t. He isn’t under pressure to keep his job. Jackson was, thanks to Lacob’s Enron management style. Then the fairly easy starting games plus their wins helped.

      • That was a shocker to me too. Many coaches might have just given up on his D, I mean Pops gave up on Parker ‘a D.

    • hat, what do you think of Barnes over last two games. He made a game winner against Phx and then double double, steals, assists against Mavs. Oh, to satisfy moto’s requirement for good D, he had 5 PFs. Not bad for a role player.

      • Harry, I admire Barnes as a person. As a basketball player he’s too often off balance, out of position, or out of touch with his teammates for me to think he’s anything more than OK. He’s lacking many pro basketball skills but makes up for it with athleticism. When he has athleticism, and when he chooses to use it.

        Note that last year Barnes suffered from “turf toe,” and last year he sucked across the board, he had ZERO contribution to make.

        This year I’m still seeing Barnes back off instead of fighting for the ball. You NEVER see him dive for a ball he didn’t personally lose. He gets some loose balls and they count as steals, but he never creates steals. He gets uncontested rebounds, but never contested ones. Has he ever forced a jump ball or picked someone’s pocket? He never fights.

        To be a great player, or even an above average player, takes extra effort. Barnes never goes there. He avoids conflict, he doesn’t create it like both the guys who were drafted behind him. He chooses to stay out of trouble. So he stays… invisible, all too often.

        Barnes ain’t Draymond, and he doesn’t have to be, to make his own unique best contribution. But until he quits playing like an approval-seeking sissy, he’s no better than just OK. And he never will be any better than that.

        • Tough crowd :-). Have to admit, you make lot of valid points. He is OK as u said but need to improve on many areas.

        • Yes, and he’s more athletic than I realized. Did you see him run after that ball that got batted out in front of him? He lowered into a sprinter stance and took off like a rocket, easily out running everyone else to the ball. And he can jump out of the gym.

          Yet, he back peddled when Tucker predictably beat Bogut off the dribble. Barnes has the size, strength, and hops to contest Tucker at the rim, yet it seemed natural for him to back off. After watching film with Adams, perhaps that inclination can be changed.

          But I know as a ballroom dancer, once a movement or pattern becomes incorporated into your body/brain, it’s not easy to change.

  41. When GSW was in LA for a few days they (Green, Steph, Bogut) recorded this little interview session for ESPN’s SportsCenter.


  42. Man, Barnes getting just killed by Leonard. Hard for me to say after watching this display that Barnes is a good defender.

    • Really, they got beat the first 7 minutes. You just don’t play catchup against tournament caliber teams. I don’t see how they do it with this starting lineup. There’s just not enough offense. Green was challenged and Barnes worthless. No inside game, though Bogut got a few.

      It wasn’t that the Spurs shot well and the Warriors were cold. The Spurs were able to get just about anything they wanted, especially with Leonard inside. Then with a lead they got into a rhythm and shots fell. Conversely, the Warriors couldn’t find much anything, putting the pressure on the guards, and couldn’t get into any kind of rhythm at all.